SpurMeUp
Les Howe
How then did we lose the ball time after time playing out from the back?
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OMT: Mighty Spurs vs Chelscumski
- Thread starter alekaras
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How then did we lose the ball time after time playing out from the back?
Nigeyman
Chris Armstrong
That’s a fair point.
yet our set up suggests we feel sorry for ourselves.
Our set up suggests damage limitation.
sometimes in life you must go aggressive and hung ho against adversity...our whole demeanour and approach suggests ‘giving up’
I like Mourinho, I appreciate his candid interviews, but I feel his approach has been wrong this week, very wrong indeed...not that I’m ignorant to our bricke fixture schedule or fitness/injury issues.
Edit wtf thought I was replying to Bedford! Yep I’m so frustrated I’m talking to myself.
The one option in front of them was Bergwijn, who was marked by 3 CBs. We didnt create options - look at where our full backs played....never pushing on to provide options. We played a flat back 5 FFS!!
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
Signing players maybe not be the answer (tho I think we need one new CM). We need a steady setup with players knowing where and how to move, to be able to play the ball quickly to each other to open up the press.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Was that as bad to watch on TV as it was from Stamford Bridge?
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
We may as well have played the youth team today. The only positive might be that where Poch would have had us fighting in their faces, giving everything, and we'd have probably still lost or drawn, maybe Mourinho accepted it was a tough ask, and set us up to stay compact and conserve some energy for the CL.
DeanoAustin
Jimmy McCormick
Yep pretty fudging puke inducing.
Jose has been absolutely schooled twice by Lampard. Jesus, let that sink in.
Legohamster
Ian Walker
None of the CM seem to look after the ball very well, either a poor pass or the wrong pass.
We don’t stand a chance till we sort this out - Lo Celso passing % must be in the 70s today.
Nigeyman
Chris Armstrong
maybe he’s not the messiah...
DeanoAustin
Jimmy McCormick
We suffered a pretty limp 2-0 defeat there under Poch last season IIRC.
With the tactics, I agree. Playing 5-4-1 was nonsense. I think most of us assumed it was 3-5-2 when we saw the line-ups, but with the full-back sitting back, GLC morooned on the wing and Bergwign not having support, it was only a matter of time til they scored
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
I think the way the game opened, chelsea were not confident. Put a bit of pressure on them, and maybe we might have played the game out of our half. Instead, all the game was in our half. With 2 teams who were lacking confidence and their prefered forward line, we let them have lots of the ball to help them find their feet.
Poch would have left us more open at the back, but we might have controlled that game and started by putting them under pressure rather than the other way round.
DeanoAustin
Jimmy McCormick
Don't think there is any such thing. Successful management is a combination of a lot of factors - right man, right time, right squad.
I have faith in José and I don't think he took over at a great time or with a great squad. But the last two games have raised questions over whether he still has it or has the game passed him by.
I still think he has it but don't hold out much hope for the rest of this season.
glasgowspur
Luka Modric
Except that shouldn't have been that tough a game, they aren't that good and are there for the taking, if we'd turned up.
DeanoAustin
Jimmy McCormick
Couldn't agree more with your analysis of the game. Spot on.
But the Poch team we saw for the last 12-18 months of his reign would have lost today too.
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
Lo Celco did well midweek, and maybe paid for that a little today. He does that thing Alli does, hold the ball, when a quick pass is needed. BUT at least he's up to speed. Competing. Which is more than can be said for Ndombele, who is currently a novelty player - shows off some tricks - but isn't up to speed and doing the basics yet.
I just want to see us pass the ball well. Move it quickly around the back. Have Ndombele and Winks show for passes and be comfortable taking the ball, with wide players ready to move into space for them etc. All top teams can pass the ball out of defense. With a slight press, we crumble.
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
I agree. I thought Mourinho got that all wrong. 1. he was so negative post Son injury. Plenty of quality in the team, man up. Fight back. 2. He set us up for the past two games to be extremely negative. All it did was give the opposition impetus and lots of the ball. My point was, if Mourinho wanted us to conserve some energy, stay compact and see out the game, he may as well have started some youth players like Skipp who could run themselves into the ground, closing down.
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
Awful. Not sure we are good enough for a top 4 place sadly. That's twice we have had our pants pulled down this season by blue scum. That always hurts. It's not just the lack of strikers though. We have players such as Ndombele and Moura who need to work harder rather than ball watch.
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
Right. In which case maybe Mourinho is more canny. Poch would have had us fighting, we'd have lost or drawn anyway and be knackered for the CL.