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Oh Soldado...
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Grays_1890
Barry Daines
Soldado is a classic Spurs signing, not because I think he is poor, because we signed a player based on how he played for another club, where they played to his strengths and we tried to turn him to something else. Its amazing how many times we do that.
ricky2tricky4city
Steffen Freund
Exactly. Lets be honest AVB f*cked him over by playing him in a team that had no interest in pushing up the field and supporting him. Bobby might as well of stood on the north pole. It was safety first and retain possession. Bobby had no Kane lone striker qualities to fall back on. Bit like Leicester on saturday, just for 40 games in a row.
It does beg the question why we sanctioned the purchase in the first place. The start at your new club is more important for strikers than any other position. Too much starts running through your head (self blaming etc), chances never come, you start thinking about what used to come natrually........once you're at that point its over.
According to a few on here, we bought him whilst we still expected Bale to be staying.
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
I'm pretty sure it was almost the first question asked in the press conferences for him and paulinho and both said that they were told by the club bale was staying.
NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
Scores again in his second league match, you just knew
Heda SPURSCZ
Steven Caulker
NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
1 goal and 2 assists
NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
So 2 goals and 2 assists in 2 league matches, go figure
Gazzasrightboot
Pascal Chimbonda
I'm really glad that he is doing well. From all the ITK, it did appear that our coaching team felt that he was quality and couldn't work out why it wasn't working in matches. Who knows. Maybe we don't do Iberian strikers!
Honestly, said it earlier .. does not reflect well on Poch .. if the guy was banging it in during training, bangs them in in Spain before and again now, tends to say we weren't set up right ..
If we really had another 20+ goal a season striker and couldn't figure out how to leverage ...
Gazzasrightboot
Pascal Chimbonda
Or it could just be the pace of the EPL. Three EPL managers tried and failed with Soldado. It's happened to a number of strikers like Forlan who banged them in before and after his stint in Spain.
It is disappointing in a way, but I think we can honestly say that the club tried its best with Soldado. It's not like we didn't give him enough game time.
We will need to prepare ourselves for Lamela doing the same. He'll be the star performer at the next world cup and be sold to Real for big big money by Inter!
3 managers tried and failed to get him scoring - common denominator says he was the problem not them
DublinSpur
Scott Parker
You mean... does not reflect well on the three Spurs managers who failed to get him firing? Seems much more likely to me that he simply wasn't suited to the league. I have no idea why that could or should happen, I'm just sorry it did. But blaming the current manager is odd, given that Soldado's problems in English football were already a year old... halfway through his Spurs career... before Pochettino arrived. On top of which; within three months of Pochettino arriving, Soldado found himself competing with Harry "31 goals" Kane making his life even tougher.
I'm delighted he appears to be resurrecting his career in Spain. Genuinely happy for the guy. But when it comes to the Premier League, the problem was with him, not his manager(s).
(And I say that as someone who generally finds some way to blame stuff on Sherwood)
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
IF he wasn't suited to the league but he's banging them in in training does that mean we aren't trading for this league?
DublinSpur
Scott Parker
I don't see how, personally. But I guess we all see things differently.
In my view, if a team finishes 5th in the premier league with a 30+ goal striker... if they are one of only two teams to feature three or more players whose goal-scoring record is in double-digits... then my guess is they are training for the league alright. And doing a pretty decent job of it too.
In that environment, if a striker is not scoring goals then you at least have to look at the possibility that the problem maybe lies with him, or his inability to get to grips with the league?
Or not; you can blame the manager for whatever you like I suppose. I like to imagine the players have a little something to do with it as well.
Answering your post as its similar to the other comments made
- Actually, no strikers worked under AVB's final season, TS played Ade (who went on his run then), Poch was really the opportunity for the club to resurrect the chance of him being a success
- The guy is a specialist CF, who has the ability to score 20 goals (very rare), we could have had two in the team at the same time (not including Ade because we all know that story)
Personally if Poch had spent as much time trying to make Soldado work as he did with Lamela ..
Done is done, good luck to the guy, but lets be clear, I don't know/recall a player who has failed as miserably at Spurs and managed to turn it back around almost instantly after leaving, to me, that says unlike a lot of those others, Soldado actually had a chance to be a success.
We need to look at that very hard to make sure we don't the same mistakes with the next guy.