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Next Spurs manager mega-thread
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Not going to bother to quote your entire post again Sheikh
- Fact that is irrelevant of a time machine, Tottenham does not have the transfer budget, wage structure or current squad to win the PL. That will not change over the next five years for obvious reasons unless we get an unexpected investment, do you really question that?
- The Tottenham you refer to is not the one of the last 6-7 years. Yes we have had a very poor record inbetween the 10 year periods, believe me, I've lived through a lot of years of dross. That said, the league progress you seem to wish for, has been there over the last 9 or so years, it has generally been an improvement. And we are likely to stay in same range (4th-6th) over next few years. I do think we have a bit of a ceiling in the immediate future, see point above.
- While Gareth/Luka may not boast to the world that they won the CC, don't think it's not an achievement for them. Again you ignored the question re any decent playing leaving Scum, despite the wages and CL being there. Is CC/Europa less priority than CL/PL =yes, Is it irrelevant = no (my opinion)
- I think you are approaching it from a "it has to be one or the other" for me the view of new season is
Yes, PL is a priority
Second, a Cup should be a priority, which one? I would make that choice based on the points you actually made, luck/draw/etc.
The clubs long term success is about the PL, but if that is the only thing you play for, and you know the odds of winning are extremely low, that's sad. You cringe at the 10 years reference, I cringe at the thought that 10 years from now, I will look back on the best Spurs team in 2+ decades and the only "boast" I will have is we came 4th twice, I might perfer to have a Europa/CC Cup in there as well.
- Fact that is irrelevant of a time machine, Tottenham does not have the transfer budget, wage structure or current squad to win the PL. That will not change over the next five years for obvious reasons unless we get an unexpected investment, do you really question that?
- The Tottenham you refer to is not the one of the last 6-7 years. Yes we have had a very poor record inbetween the 10 year periods, believe me, I've lived through a lot of years of dross. That said, the league progress you seem to wish for, has been there over the last 9 or so years, it has generally been an improvement. And we are likely to stay in same range (4th-6th) over next few years. I do think we have a bit of a ceiling in the immediate future, see point above.
- While Gareth/Luka may not boast to the world that they won the CC, don't think it's not an achievement for them. Again you ignored the question re any decent playing leaving Scum, despite the wages and CL being there. Is CC/Europa less priority than CL/PL =yes, Is it irrelevant = no (my opinion)
- I think you are approaching it from a "it has to be one or the other" for me the view of new season is
Yes, PL is a priority
Second, a Cup should be a priority, which one? I would make that choice based on the points you actually made, luck/draw/etc.
The clubs long term success is about the PL, but if that is the only thing you play for, and you know the odds of winning are extremely low, that's sad. You cringe at the 10 years reference, I cringe at the thought that 10 years from now, I will look back on the best Spurs team in 2+ decades and the only "boast" I will have is we came 4th twice, I might perfer to have a Europa/CC Cup in there as well.
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Serge Aurier
I like Raziels' argument, but I also like Sheikh's argument. But which is better? There's only one way to find out...
FIGHT!!!!
FIGHT!!!!
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
The scum do pay big wages, but the teams that the players have left the scum for are hardly wage cuts are they?
The ones most likely to win medal are Fabregas and Nasri, who have both probably gained a significant wage increase in addition to that chance to win medals..
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
It's just the state of football. With the increase in the amount of CL money teams get next season it's only going to get worse really.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Indeed. That's my point really. The game is now about who is the richest.
greatwhitenorf
Edgar Davids
Not so much fixed as reconfigured.
It doesn't have to be a case of always fielding the strongest available team in cup competitions, though. It's just a question of sensible rotation and judicious use of the squad. That's what Harry never understood.
You mention Ferguson. Well, he is the master of keeping his squad fresh - rotating the right players for the right games (both league and cup) and keeping Utd in with a chance of winning as many competitions as possible for as long as possible.
That's all I ask of Spurs rather than fielding youth squads, sacrificing games against teams that we should be beating in our sleep and talking a competition down as a "pain in the neck" from the offset.
Winning competitions like the Europa League is as much about approaching the games with the right mentality - we really want to win this - as it is about the team that is picked.
It's a mentality that big clubs should have. We are a big club.
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Serge Aurier
ah crap. please no. don't do it Levy
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
I was thinking earlier it would be funny if it isn't AVB...it would be the second time the entire press seemingly all hung their hat on a manager related to the Spurs job only to be completely wrong with it in a matter of 2 months.
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
...It won't be Blanc though, surely not. He went into a meeting with the FFF the other day and was 'unsure' of his position at the end. We will have surely agreed something with AVB well before that, otherwise we'd really have to be asking what we have been doing for the last 2 weeks without a manager.
Spurs7891
Jermaine Jenas
I do get the feeling it is going to be Blanc and later Levy will come out and say we were never interested in AVB. You know Spurs are always capable of doing the unpredictable. I won't have problem with either one but have a slight preference for Blanc due to his experience.
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Serge Aurier
yes, someone replied in this, its been hours!! I think it will be Blanc now just cos we can do the ridiculous. hope not as was getting rather excited about AVB.
Coincidence? With what?
The only reason that the rumours of 1 Jul came about was due to AVB's gardening leave being over then.
Regardless of whether the high level of excitement about an imminent managerial appointment is justified, I'm still convinced that AVB is our man. Simply too great a weight of information (however little verified) for me to believe that it could be anyone else now.
stinkfoot
Eidur Gudjohnsen
Now, all press should be taken with a pinch of salt obviously, but if there is any truth in the supposed £11mill (or even the £100k every month for another year or so) that AVB would be giving up to come to us then it seems he's very very eager to prove Chelsea wrong.
This could be very good for us!
This could be very good for us!
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
I must have missed that. Why would he loose out on 11mil by coming to us?
stinkfoot
Eidur Gudjohnsen
In the sun today it said that Chelsea are continuing to pay him £100k a week (up to the remainder of his contract - totalling 11mill) rather than a lump sum until he starts a new job.