Gazza
Johnny Morrison
I remember you laying the blame solely at Mourinhos feet and saying that the players were good enough.
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Next Manager?
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I remember you laying the blame solely at Mourinhos feet and saying that the players were good enough.
SteveAWOL
Gary Stevens
He failed mate. He failed because he was actually a bricky busted flush. I expected him to deliver, I bought it even though I hated the bloke, and he managed to fail spectacularly - twice. Never forget, he crashed out of the CL last season too (injuries, yeah, we've had those in previous seasons too). Again (and unreservedly) fudge him!
Yup, the fact that his star had fallen so much that Mourinho would risk his legacy on a squad which had been in relegation form for 9 months but he would have to try and do that without any of those trusted assistants from his heyday (will be interesting to see whether Pochettino is still working alongside Perez, D'Agostino and Jiménez in 20 years time) plus wouldn’t even have Campos there to help him replace the furniture…
Hopefully our next managerial team will have better success getting the best out of Ndombele et al but even Nicholson in his prime would’ve struggled to turn Eric Diarrhoea into the new Vertonghen I suspect!
SissokoWasGood (BoL)
Paul Stalteri
I don’t think it’s just Kane though. I think Son totally got it. I think PEH totally got it. I actually think Aurier got it. Tanguay got it after some tough love. Ben Davies got it. Reguillon got it.
Then there’s a group of players that want to blame somebody else, and I’m certain someone like Winks just did not get it at all.
No doubt managers that can offer a system, and an arm around the shoulder, they have their place in the game. But I think Jose’s point is, in finals when the pressure is on, it’s not about the system, it’s about executing well. If they can’t take a bit of criticism from him during the season, how can they be expected to fight for trophies? And he is the guy that wins trophies, where as our players even under Poch (one of my favourite people in the world) fell short. And that’s probably why Poch knew he needed better furniture too. Some players can handle the pressure and some players can’t.
There’s an interview recently with Poch talking about Mbappe. How he’s utterly obsessed with football, getting better. Mbappe clearly takes responsibility for his performances, and he has a supreme confidence. Jose would have absolutely no problem managing him. I’m sure of it.
For all of United’s ‘improvement’ since he left, they are still only matching his best finish and in the final of one of the competitions he won. They haven’t kicked on.
Good enough to do better than what Mourinho was getting out of them - which is still the case. Always said we need to improve the squad too.
glasgowspur
Barry Daines
And that's all it would have been.
Diamond Lights
Gudni Bergsson
Nuno is entirely the wrong decision for me. Can still finish as low as 14th below southampton and Palace.
I know several, including me have spoken postively on Potter and he's on course for a worse finish, but the Brighton vs Wolves squads are chalk and cheese. That's Nuno's team, he's spent 4 years crafting. Potter took over Brighton in 2019 so very different story before people throw that out.
I know several, including me have spoken postively on Potter and he's on course for a worse finish, but the Brighton vs Wolves squads are chalk and cheese. That's Nuno's team, he's spent 4 years crafting. Potter took over Brighton in 2019 so very different story before people throw that out.
Gazza
Johnny Morrison
Also Potter did remarkably well in Sweden dragging a pub team into Europe and winning things.
glasgowspur
Barry Daines
Agreed, there's players at the club that the managers never wanted.
That's on Levy.
The windows without players for instance in my mind is because poch was offered players said no, thinking that when the players HE wanted became available we'd have the money for them. Turns out not.
That's on Levy.
But it's not all levys fault, not Imho.
Life isn't black and white, every choice and decision is a roll of the dice.
Gazza
Johnny Morrison
There is no manager, Not pochettino, not mourinho that can work with this mob. I think Harry Kane has it spot on.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Why have son, hojbjerg, regulion and ndombele all gone off massive cliffs this last 6 months too?
The only 2 players in our squad who survived mourinho intact were Kane and lloris. The other 28 all fell into destroyed confidence and poor conditioning
I've already said who i'd like and santos isn't on the list. But wolves have a smaller wage budget than brighton, yet are higher in the table.
Finney Is Back
Barry Daines
Could be any of the above.... including that he is just an idiot. I suspect though that it was that it saved us a few million quid - or saved us a few million from what it would've cost if we'd actually have won the Cup (which was a very slim chance anyway). I suspect a few million quid is more important to Daniel Levy than the League Cup.
SissokoWasGood (BoL)
Paul Stalteri
I don’t know. Maybe the disunity in the squad was helping nobody in the end?
I will always be fascinated in what happened after we went too. The Liverpool game where we contrived to throw it away. Maybe the players were told some home truths after that performance and it led to a slide? I’m really not sure.
This conditioning thing I think is a bit of a red herring used to beat Jose with. He doesn’t set up his teams to press for 90 mins, he sets them up to attack when we need goals and defend when we don’t. The fitness is tuned accordingly, it’s not bad or good, it’s a strategic trade off and one of the benefits is the lack of injuries we suffered.
As for destroyed confidence...these should be elite players if they are fighting for the title. It should be impossible for a bit of criticism to destroy it.
Diamond Lights
Gudni Bergsson
But again, that's not Potters team right, joined May 2019.
Finney Is Back
Barry Daines
If only the chairman was lucky enough to have had a brilliant manager who had achieved over the odds for 4 consistent years to have told him exactly this eh?.....
Finney Is Back
Barry Daines
How much longer at Man Utd did it take to get rid of Woodward?
fernadez
Vedran Corluka
Challenging for 4th and a cup final not enough? Tough crowd.
Gazza
Johnny Morrison
Poor conditioning? At one point we had played 10 odd more games than anyone in Europe. Hojberg has looked tired for some time. Reguilon is a new player in the league and will take more than a season to adapt. Ndomble has always had questions about his fitness and application. Next.
So we don't know if he can build a team. Which will be needed. All we know is that he has achieved par with brighton by not getting them relegated. Santos finishes above where wolves would be expected to finish.
El Dante
Les Ferdinand
He’s an awful appointment. On a list of potential managers I’d like at the club...well he wouldn’t even be on the list