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New England manager = Roy Hodgson

harr1984 said:
You keep going on about this article you posted, but its just full of opinion - no facts at all. It's from KUMB, just about everyone associated with West Ham don't like him. I'm not even sure what posting that blog is meant to prove for you anyway, the chairman didn't agree with Redknapps tactics.....so what? He employed the guy and as far as I'm aware took them to their highest ever position in the PL....
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Indeed...if anything it just proves Harry's philosophy is completely the right one to take. Harry, as a tactically illiterate, lily-liverred spineless dunce, took them to 5th, their highest PL placing. If it wasn't the tactical system that took them that high (as Harry clearly wasn't capable of implementing one) then it must have been the quality of players, motivated to play. Which is what Harry has said all along, and what should be pretty obvious to anyone anyway. Better players will result in better results.

Besdies...what does Terry Brown know about tactics?
 
harr1984 said:
You keep going on about this article you posted, but its just full of opinion - no facts at all. It's from KUMB, just about everyone associated with West Ham don't like him. I'm not even sure what posting that blog is meant to prove for you anyway, the chairman didn't agree with Redknapps tactics.....so what? He employed the guy and as far as I'm aware took them to their highest ever position in the PL....
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It references various books and named sources?
 
BrainOfLevy said:
Indeed...if anything it just proves Harry's philosophy is completely the right one to take. Harry, as a tactically illiterate, lily-liverred spineless dunce, took them to 5th, their highest PL placing. If it wasn't the tactical system that took them that high (as Harry clearly wasn't capable of implementing one) then it must have been the quality of players, motivated to play. Which is what Harry has said all along, and what should be pretty obvious to anyone anyway. Better players will result in better results.

Besdies...what does Terry Brown know about tactics?
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So you think having a massive squad, divided into his favourites and pariahs is good practice? And having a situation where personal issues stops a player from being picked? And deflecting blame for tactical problems onto players not being able to defend?

All fine?

Cool.
 
Leeds Spur said:
So you think having a massive squad, divided into his favourites and pariahs is good practice? And having a situation where personal issues stops a player from being picked? And deflecting blame for tactical problems onto players not being able to defend?

All fine?

Cool.
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Even though I don't know what you're specifically referring to for the most part, these are better points to argue against Redknapp with than some biased KUMB blog....
 
Leeds Spur said:
So you think having a massive squad, divided into his favourites and pariahs is good practice? And having a situation where personal issues stops a player from being picked? And deflecting blame for tactical problems onto players not being able to defend?

All fine?

Cool.
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The first point of the squad is just Harry's philosophy. Good players who are performing will play. Under performers will not. At least that's what I've seen here. Bale was a weakling that couldn't get into the side, but once he toughened up and earnt his place he stayed there - it was no grudge against him. I don't think there's been one player at Spurs that Harry has left out because of a personal issue, only because he doesn't rate them because they haven't been performing. If they were able to start performing (Bentley when we got 4th, Pav when we got 4th, Bale when we got 4th) then they would get a run in the team. Of course he has favourites. He plays the players that can do the job he wants and doesn't play the ones he doesn't think can do the job.

And deflected the blame again just ties in with his philosophy. Good players that can do the job would be less likely to make defensive errors than bad ones. That's all he's saying. But again, he's never done that here. He generally defends our players well, except in situations where he feels a dose of honesty wouldn't go a miss. (My wife could have scored that...which was probably true anyway).
 
A no-win situation


Roy will once again be in the shadow of the man the fans want

Paul Merson

Posted 1st May 2012 view comments



I'd love to sit down with the four people who've appointed the new England manager and ask them: "What are you thinking?"

The whole country - and I mean the whole country - wanted Harry Redknapp. I'm even talking about Arsenal fans who don't normally have anything nice to say about a Tottenham manager.

So why have these four people take no notice of the whole country? Apart from Sir Trevor Brooking have the others ever actually played a game of football? I just can't believe the decision they've made.

Hodgson: Merse feels he'll be up against it from the start

I hope this isn't sounding disrespectful to Roy Hodgson because I'm a big fan of his. He's a lovely bloke, he's a top manager and he's got loads of experience - but he's going to be up against it straight away because everyone wanted someone else.

I said on Soccer Saturday three weeks ago that I couldn't see Harry getting the job. It had gone on too long. If he was going to get it he would have got it straight away and I just felt they were waiting for the bandwagon to slow down and then pick someone else.


Who do these four blokes care about? Do they care about England and their fans or do they care about themselves? They're not listening to the country - otherwise they'd have given the job to Harry.

But I still couldn't believe it when it came up on Sky Sports News on Sunday evening that they were approaching Hodgson. I thought I was seeing things.

Who do these four blokes care about? Do they care about England and their fans or do they care about themselves? They're not listening to the country - otherwise they'd have given the job to Harry.

I've played under Harry and I know he would have been perfect for the job. Firstly, he's brilliant with the press and you need to be able to have a laugh with the journalists. If you stand up and walk out of press conferences like Steve McClaren did then you're behind the eight-ball straight away.

Secondly he always goes out to win football matches. It's very rare that you see a Redknapp team go anywhere and not have a right go. I played for him at Portsmouth and he always told us to go out and play.

Also, all the players want to play for him, so I can't believe the decision they've made.

I just don't get it, I really don't.

Glutton

You can't turn the England job down, but Roy Hodgson must be a glutton for punishment.

He took the Liverpool job when the fans didn't want him because they wanted Kenny Dalglish instead. Now he's in the same situation with England and Harry. I don't see too many England fans who want him.

So I think he's going to be up against it straight away. Every time he makes a decision, people will be asking if it's what Harry would have done.

With Redknapp in charge there would have been no pressure on England at Euro 2012. For the first time in years nobody was talking the team up and nobody was really expecting us to win (although I actually believe we have half a chance). If Harry had got the job it would have been a great opportunity for England.

But now there will be so much pressure on them it's ridiculous. If Hodgson doesn't get the results straight away the fans will be straight on his back. If they don't win the first friendly 3-0 or 4-0 there will be uproar!

I've met Roy a few times. I've played against his teams on many occasions and just before Christmas I bumped into him in a restaurant and we stood outside and talked for 10 minutes. He's a really nice bloke and a top manager.

But I feel really sorry for him because I don't think he's going to be given a chance.


Money

I hope this isn't about money. We've thrown enough money down the swanny with England managers over the years, especially with Sven-Goran Eriksson and Fabio Capello.

Why shouldn't we spend that sort of money on a top English manager? It seems to be frowned upon if an Englishman earns good money, but when it's a foreigner nobody says a word.

Hodgson has been an international manager before, but I don't see how that puts him ahead of Harry. He's been around for a hundred years working with international players. His son has played for England and he's been with top-class players all his career.

I feel absolutely gutted for Harry. When any Englishman starts a career in coaching his dream is to manager the England football team and Harry is English through and through. I'm gutted when I play Championship Manager and I don't get offered the England job, so I can't imagine how he must be feeling.

Seriously though, I'm devastated for him - and I feel sorry for Hodgson too as he's in a no-win situation.

I hope he does well. I want England to win tournaments - and I'm sure Harry Redknapp does too - but he's going to be up against it right from the very start.

http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,,15205_7721120,00.html
 
southstand1882 said:
KD, all you have to do is add "I have information that I cannot share" in the middle of a post, and you can post drivel as ITK

(Several posters have resorted to this tactic; I am but a mere apprentice in the art of 'bull brick')

Here are my previous efforts

http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/showthread.php?1523-Money-Do-we-have-it&p=95613#post95613

http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/showthread.php?1468-Redknapp-just-said-on-SSN&p=92120#post92120

Personally, I think I'm getting more subtle, by peppering my 'horse brick' with a few names and facts.
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Are you Redknapps script writer :lol:
 
How long until we're back discussing the next England captain then?


Personally i can't see it being Gerrard, after the Liverpool debacle..
 
Leeds Spur said:
Care to talk about the specific parts of teh article you think are gonads?

Thought not.

And it was on Newsnow......I don't 'trawl' KUMB as a matter of course.
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pretty much most of it

but then again I'm old enough to see through all of the flimflam and recognise whats right for the club.
 
ArcspacE said:
A no-win situation


Roy will once again be in the shadow of the man the fans want

Paul Merson

Posted 1st May 2012 view comments



I'd love to sit down with the four people who've appointed the new England manager and ask them: "What are you thinking?"

The whole country - and I mean the whole country - wanted Harry Redknapp. I'm even talking about Arsenal fans who don't normally have anything nice to say about a Tottenham manager.

So why have these four people take no notice of the whole country? Apart from Sir Trevor Brooking have the others ever actually played a game of football? I just can't believe the decision they've made.

Hodgson: Merse feels he'll be up against it from the start

I hope this isn't sounding disrespectful to Roy Hodgson because I'm a big fan of his. He's a lovely bloke, he's a top manager and he's got loads of experience - but he's going to be up against it straight away because everyone wanted someone else.

I said on Soccer Saturday three weeks ago that I couldn't see Harry getting the job. It had gone on too long. If he was going to get it he would have got it straight away and I just felt they were waiting for the bandwagon to slow down and then pick someone else.


Who do these four blokes care about? Do they care about England and their fans or do they care about themselves? They're not listening to the country - otherwise they'd have given the job to Harry.

But I still couldn't believe it when it came up on Sky Sports News on Sunday evening that they were approaching Hodgson. I thought I was seeing things.

Who do these four blokes care about? Do they care about England and their fans or do they care about themselves? They're not listening to the country - otherwise they'd have given the job to Harry.

I've played under Harry and I know he would have been perfect for the job. Firstly, he's brilliant with the press and you need to be able to have a laugh with the journalists. If you stand up and walk out of press conferences like Steve McClaren did then you're behind the eight-ball straight away.

Secondly he always goes out to win football matches. It's very rare that you see a Redknapp team go anywhere and not have a right go. I played for him at Portsmouth and he always told us to go out and play.

Also, all the players want to play for him, so I can't believe the decision they've made.

I just don't get it, I really don't.

Glutton

You can't turn the England job down, but Roy Hodgson must be a glutton for punishment.

He took the Liverpool job when the fans didn't want him because they wanted Kenny Dalglish instead. Now he's in the same situation with England and Harry. I don't see too many England fans who want him.

So I think he's going to be up against it straight away. Every time he makes a decision, people will be asking if it's what Harry would have done.

With Redknapp in charge there would have been no pressure on England at Euro 2012. For the first time in years nobody was talking the team up and nobody was really expecting us to win (although I actually believe we have half a chance). If Harry had got the job it would have been a great opportunity for England.

But now there will be so much pressure on them it's ridiculous. If Hodgson doesn't get the results straight away the fans will be straight on his back. If they don't win the first friendly 3-0 or 4-0 there will be uproar!

I've met Roy a few times. I've played against his teams on many occasions and just before Christmas I bumped into him in a restaurant and we stood outside and talked for 10 minutes. He's a really nice bloke and a top manager.

But I feel really sorry for him because I don't think he's going to be given a chance.


Money

I hope this isn't about money. We've thrown enough money down the swanny with England managers over the years, especially with Sven-Goran Eriksson and Fabio Capello.

Why shouldn't we spend that sort of money on a top English manager? It seems to be frowned upon if an Englishman earns good money, but when it's a foreigner nobody says a word.

Hodgson has been an international manager before, but I don't see how that puts him ahead of Harry. He's been around for a hundred years working with international players. His son has played for England and he's been with top-class players all his career.

I feel absolutely gutted for Harry. When any Englishman starts a career in coaching his dream is to manager the England football team and Harry is English through and through. I'm gutted when I play Championship Manager and I don't get offered the England job, so I can't imagine how he must be feeling.

Seriously though, I'm devastated for him - and I feel sorry for Hodgson too as he's in a no-win situation.

I hope he does well. I want England to win tournaments - and I'm sure Harry Redknapp does too - but he's going to be up against it right from the very start.

http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,,15205_7721120,00.html
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Merson back on the pop again i see :-"
 
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