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Mousa Dembele
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We are Tottenham
Eidur Gudjohnsen
I would not sell.Winning things is about having a strong squad
and I think we would be mad to sell.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
We have 8 senior AMs for 3 positions. It's the only part of the squad where we are still baggy.
Our midfield injuries have been exceptionally high this season (Bentaleb, Mason, Pritchard, Townsend, Son) and yet we've still got a lot of better options than him.
Cochise
Steve Carr
He started the first 4 games and then got injured against Everton. His first game back was against Swansea where he came off the bench. He had been out of the matchday squad before then because of that injury.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
With him P4 W0 D3 L1
Without P7 W4 D2 L1
Quite telling - essentially we struggle to score when he's in the team
Cochise
Steve Carr
I would argue that the return of Eriksen coupled with Lamela and Son joining the team are bigger factors than Dembele being injured. I'd also argue that the midfield has looked different too with us having a more aggressive formation. With Dembele in the side we played in a different manner. He was less of a problem than the likes of Chadli and Kane who were both missing good chances to score.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Bingo
GB has a big dislike of Dembele but he p,aged a big role in of big successes last season
Dembele was probably our best attacking player in those games which says a lot about how we played and how the rest of the team needed to step up which they did with the new signings and more effort all round (shocker)
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
I seem to remember him playing well when we banged 5 past Chelsea. I remember him pressing the brick out of the Arsenal back line when we beat them. Are you saying if he had not played we would have scored more?
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Yeah he is
Dembele has faults but against the best sides he was so important last season and in the few games he has played this season he was our best attacking threat
Yes we have stepped up in his absence but as I said earlier it was more to do with players like Son joining, more luck and much more effort all round
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
Hmmm, what were these stats when he was brought back in to the team in jan and feb last year? In fact I'm pretty sure you were saying that these sort of stats weren't relevant then!
As others have said, I think there's a huge amount of other variables that caused that record at the start of this season, not simply Dembele being in and out of the team! By a similar analysis your mate Mason wouldn't look too favorable either (I rate Mason by the way, just trying to show you how you shouldn't just pick and chose what stats to use and take out all context).
Rorschach
Ricky Villa
Wasn't the general consensus that we were the superior team in most of those early matches? So bascially those stats tell us nothing at all really, and even less about his performances in those matches. From my recollection he was MOM in one of those early matches and pretty decent in most of the others.
In saying that I do think he has to step up this season in terms of goals/assists or he'll likely be shifted on.
In saying that I do think he has to step up this season in terms of goals/assists or he'll likely be shifted on.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
He will be moved on for his sake and ours IMO as you can't have a £10m asset not in a match day squad at a club that isn't mega rich
His strength is ball retention and against attacking sides that's a huge thing as demonstrated when teams attacked us last year
Coincidentally the early games this season were against sides that didn't attack us yet he was still arguably our most effective attacking Panter in what was a poor start but one where we were the better side in every game.
If your picking our best 11 he wouldnt be in it, but if your picking a squad he would be for me. It clearly that wouldn't suit him. You can't keep a play for the few games where people actually play attacking football and even Man Utd have moved away from that
His strength is ball retention and against attacking sides that's a huge thing as demonstrated when teams attacked us last year
Coincidentally the early games this season were against sides that didn't attack us yet he was still arguably our most effective attacking Panter in what was a poor start but one where we were the better side in every game.
If your picking our best 11 he wouldnt be in it, but if your picking a squad he would be for me. It clearly that wouldn't suit him. You can't keep a play for the few games where people actually play attacking football and even Man Utd have moved away from that
If that 10m can go towards an acceptable offer for Berahino...
I agree with most arguments here - he is a good player well worth a place in the squad, but not the right type of player for our tactics to be a regular starter and with that in mind should probably be sold
I agree with most arguments here - he is a good player well worth a place in the squad, but not the right type of player for our tactics to be a regular starter and with that in mind should probably be sold
Cochise
Steve Carr
For the record, I don't see him sticking around for that many more years when we have the likes of Alli and to a latter extent Onomah to bring through. IMO there could be some truth in the article, my argument was that they were wrong to state that he hasn't been playing because he is out of favour when clearly he has been injured.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
He's only got 18 months left on his contract, so can sign a pre-contract next January.
He's also got a fight on to make the Belgian squad for the Euros, so needs to be playing regularly this winter/spring.
Yiddo
Jack Jull
He started all the games he has been fit for this season so i really do not get why people are talking about him not getting game time.