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Micky van de Ven

Love love love Micky, but in fairness, this is a moment for Frank to assert authority and I trust both players will be fined. Personally I understand exactly why they did what I think they did (without context it's hard to say exactly) however consequences must be had - especially if Bissouma was essentially binned off for timekeeping as is alleged.
 
parklane1 said:
Should it have happened, no, but i think there are some making mountains out of molehills over it.
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Sadly this is both modern football and modern life. Everything is projected into the stratosphere sans context. Remember in 74 when Keegan and Bremner threw their shirts at Wembley? Remember when Ghaly did at the Lane and got pilloried? Unfortunately, actions dop get blown out of proportion...
 
thfcsteff said:
Love love love Micky, but in fairness, this is a moment for Frank to assert authority and I trust both players will be fined. Personally I understand exactly why they did what I think they did (without context it's hard to say exactly) however consequences must be had - especially if Bissouma was essentially binned off for timekeeping as is alleged.
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I am with Micky just lost to Chelsea & you want me to walk around & get booed & probably called allsorts of brick. You think in that situation he should be fined ridiculous a private apology to Frank is sufficient.

Biss was binned after being late multiple times completely different situation
 
kb 1984 said:
I am with Micky just lost to Chelsea & you want me to walk around & get booed & probably called allsorts of brick. You think in that situation he should be fined ridiculous a private apology to Frank is sufficient.

Biss was binned after being late multiple times completely different situation
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I’m all for skipping the lap of ‘honour’ after a loss, but I don’t think you should show disrespect for your boss like that publicly. Was a bad look for them imo.
 
tommysvr said:
I’m all for skipping the lap of ‘honour’ after a loss, but I don’t think you should show disrespect for your boss like that publicly. Was a bad look for them imo.
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Agreed with the lap of honour should not be done it's asking for trouble. An apology is more than enough fining people for being angry after a loss is not necessary
 
markysimmo said:
Is it not more of a lap of appreciation for the fans rather than a lap of honour
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Yep wrong word but the point still stands we shouldn't expect players to walk around pitch win or loose. Imagine you are thanking the fans & some idiot insults your Mrs or kids you are angry after losing & suddenly you see red.
 
Gamedays during covid shined a light on what the fans brings to the table. The lap of appreciation is important imo, sure it's not easy if there's abuse, but shying away from the connection with the fans will just widen the gap further and compund the issue
 
The problems with atmosphere/reaction to the players in the stadium will imo be solved once we start getting onto the front foot more, which we will, given time.
 
Svess said:
Gamedays during covid shined a light on what the fans brings to the table. The lap of appreciation is important imo, sure it's not easy if there's abuse, but shying away from the connection with the fans will just widen the gap further and compund the issue
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If you think walking around while being booed & abused is going to bring players closer to fans it won't.

Imagine someone insults Romero & he decides fudge you & climbs into the stands & is dragged back by players that causes more problems than its worth.

I don't recall Nicholson Burkinshaw or any manager until recently asking players to walk around clapping the fans. I didn't expect it either
 
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kb 1984 said:
If you think walking around while being booed & abused is going to bring players closer to fans it won't.

Imagine someone insults Romero & he decides fudge you & climbs into the stands & is dragged back by players that causes more problems than its worth.

I don't recall Nicholson Burkinshaw or any manager until recently asking players to walk around clapping the fans. I didn't expect it either
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Yes, It's defenitely the more comfortable approach. You get to do that choice in life on a regular basis, often keeps you stagnant.
 
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