Micky van de Ven

[Gutter Boy]

I was imagining that Ange might give Richarlison a chance as our #1 if Harry goes - which I do appreciate is controversial!

I think that will happen too. But you rotate him with Ferguson, just like Kane came through alongside Adebayor and Soldado. Then he flew.

 

[DubSpur]

Imagine if United/Chelsea/Liverpool/City had given us £15-20m for Kane in 2014. That would have seemed an awful lot, but it would by now have paid back 20x over.

I know there's been inflation in the transfer marker but it's a big leap from 15-20m to 80m, there are only three teenagers that cost more than 80, bit of a ridiculous comparison.

 

[metalgear]

I was imagining that Ange might give Richarlison a chance as our #1 if Harry goes - which I do appreciate is controversial!

If Richarlison is backup we might as well sell him


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[AdamB]

I was imagining that Ange might give Richarlison a chance as our #1 if Harry goes - which I do appreciate is controversial!

if Kane goes, then I think there’s a fair chance of that and we sign a £30m-£40m young player who can play on the right and also CF.

I’m not convinced we’d spend big on an out and our CF as it’d mean that one of them or Rixht doesn’t play

 

[MKSpur]

I'm a big fan of Ferguson and think he's the real deal, but £80m would be a lot for a player that has only 20 PL games and 6 goals.

Yeah you'd think if it was a goer we'd look to structure it for around half of last that up front but I'd be up for some achievable add ons that could take it closer to that figure if he's a success.

 

[Grays_1890]

if Kane goes, then I think there’s a fair chance of that and we sign a £30m-£40m young player who can play on the right and also CF.

I’m not convinced we’d spend big on an out and our CF as it’d mean that one of them or Rixht doesn’t play

I dont see that at all, we have multiple players on either side now, there is no reason not to invest in another CF, even if Richy was to be number 1 we would need to replace the back up.

 

[AdamB]

I dont see that at all, we have multiple players on either side now, there is no reason not to invest in another CF, even if Richy was to be number 1 we would need to replace the back up.

What I posted achieves that. Question is whether we would sign someone who could only play as a CF

If Kane leaves and without counting players in multiple positions, we have:
- Richy probably as first choice CF
- Son and Solomon for the left
- Kulu for the right

Hence why I said signing someone who could play on the right and also CF. A CF who is just a CF might get limited game time this year given our lack of European football

(Perisic and Gil are TBC in terms of whether they stay or go, and Porro being used at RB)

 

[Grays_1890]

What I posted achieves that. Question is whether we would sign someone who could only play as a CF

If Kane leaves and without counting players in multiple positions, we have:
- Richy probably as first choice CF
- Son and Solomon for the left
- Kulu for the right

Hence why I said signing someone who could play on the right and also CF. A CF who is just a CF might get limited game time this year given our lack of European football

(Perisic and Gil are TBC in terms of whether they stay or go, and Porro being used at RB)

Omitting the fact we have an out and out striker potentially leaving and having two players that would not replace that. When you also add the level of striker you lose and the hole Kane leaves it would be idiotic

If we wanted cover for the areas you mention, Perisic and Gil are still Spurs players and could be 2nd or 3rd options for either, Porro is more suited to RW than RB so there is more than enough cover in all areas. For us to mess about and cover areas we don't need any to have no specialist striker makes zero sense to me

 

[Lilbaz]

What I posted achieves that. Question is whether we would sign someone who could only play as a CF

If Kane leaves and without counting players in multiple positions, we have:
- Richy probably as first choice CF
- Son and Solomon for the left
- Kulu for the right

Hence why I said signing someone who could play on the right and also CF. A CF who is just a CF might get limited game time this year given our lack of European football

(Perisic and Gil are TBC in terms of whether they stay or go, and Porro being used at RB)

Solomon has played on the right pre season. Porro, maddison and perisic can play there. Even richi has played there as has son.

 

[AdamB]

Solomon has played on the right pre season. Porro, maddison and perisic can play there. Even richi has played there as has son.

He has, but Solomon has spent most of his career on the left, Porro has been used at RB pre-season, Maddison is a ARM and Perisic is possibly leaving.

If you count players for multiple positions then we dont need to sign anyone and you dont need a 22ish man squad

 

[Grays_1890]

He has, but Solomon has spent most of his career on the left, Porro has been used at RB pre-season, Maddison is a ARM and Perisic is possibly leaving.

If you count players for multiple positions then we dont need to sign anyone and you dont need a 22ish man squad

And if you count players for multiple positions then the idea you buy a CF/RW means we don't have a single specialist striker at the club, madness when you lose the clubs all time record scorer.

 

[AdamB]

Omitting the fact we have an out and out striker potentially leaving and having two players that would not replace that. When you also add the level of striker you lose and the hole Kane leaves it would be idiotic

If we wanted cover for the areas you mention, Perisic and Gil are still Spurs players and could be 2nd or 3rd options for either, Porro is more suited to RW than RB so there is more than enough cover in all areas. For us to mess about and cover areas we don't need any to have no specialist striker makes zero sense to me

Ange seems to disagree wiht you re Porro.

I think Richarlison is/will be a specialist striker. Ange's system plays the wide forwards very high and wide, which plays less to Richalison's stregnths than the system which we've played in recent years where the wide forwards are narrower and Kane drops deeper

 

[AdamB]

And if you count players for multiple positions then the idea you buy a CF/RW means we don't have a single specialist striker at the club, madness when you lose the clubs all time record scorer.

I think Brazil's number 9 is a specialist striker

 

[Grays_1890]

I think Brazil's number 9 is a specialist striker

Brazil probably the only place he has played that role regular though and only recently, played off the left alot for Everton with Calvert Lewis, Rodon and Toson playing central before him. Thats not to knock him I think he is a good player, better than many believe on here even, but not as a starting striker IMO

I just can advocate signing another multi position player when thats exactly what we have a glut of now leaving us with no out and out frontline striker or even back up for again, another multi positional player.

 

[Gutter Boy]

Ange seems to disagree wiht you re Porro.

I think Richarlison is/will be a specialist striker. Ange's system plays the wide forwards very high and wide, which plays less to Richalison's stregnths than the system which we've played in recent years where the wide forwards are narrower and Kane drops deeper

I think/hope it's just while Spence is injured. Porro is the worst RB I've seen since Gilberto - he just doesn't have the concentration or positional awareness; or in fact any defensive qualities.

 

[Grays_1890]

I think/hope it's just while Spence is injured. Porro is the worst RB I've seen since Gilberto - he just doesn't have the concentration or positional awareness; or in fact any defensive qualities.

He isn't a RB in the traditional sense as far as I can see, I think he is a talent going forward though. I can't see him spending a season at RB when Royal is by some distance the best in that area

 

[AdamB]

Brazil probably the only place he has played that role regular though and only recently, played off the left alot for Everton with Calvert Lewis, Rodon and Toson playing central before him. Thats not to knock him I think he is a good player, better than many believe on here even, but not as a starting striker IMO

I just can advocate signing another multi position player when thats exactly what we have a glut of now leaving us with no out and out frontline striker or even back up for again, another multi positional player.

ok - I guess we see things differently re Richarlison. Will see what Ange thinks in the coming weeks!

 

[Finney Is Back]

I think we'll need to spend at least all the Kane money on replacing Kane. Ferguson or Muani would likely cost c.£80m. So I don't think that comes into the CB conundrum. It's more shifting Hojbjerg, Ndombele, Regullion, Sanchez etc.

If we spend the Kane money replacing Kane then I suspect there'll be very little left to buy new centre backs and we have a desperate need for those.

Brighton have no need to sell Ferguson. He won't be moving until next summer at the earliest IMO. Due to his long contract and Brighton having no need to sell he would only move for WAY over his true value (probably a higher fee than we bring in for Kane). If we wanted Ferguson then we had to make a bid much earlier this summer before he had signed a new deal. I also can't see us paying the amount that Frankfurt are rumoured to want for Muani.

I think as soon as a deal is agreed for Kane we'll then pull the trigger and buy a couple of centre backs. Replacing Kane (if at all) will come later if we move on some of our unwanted players and bring in transfer fees for them.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I think/hope it's just while Spence is injured. Porro is the worst RB I've seen since Gilberto - he just doesn't have the concentration or positional awareness; or in fact any defensive qualities.

Gilberto was a left back

 

[AdamB]

If we spend the Kane money replacing Kane

No way are we about to spend £80m-£90m on a CF.

If we sign someone to compete with Richy or be ahead of him in the pecking order, we'll spend £50m - £60m
A no 2 (probably young player - say 20-22 yrs old), we'll spend £30m-£40m
Perhaps if we sign a RW who can play CF, we'll spend £50m-£60m

Anyone above those brackets would be impossible to attract given no CL football, and they'd have richer suitors