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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked
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We must remember the pay scale Poch is working with. Its not like he can dip into the entire player pool and pick which players he wants.
When buying the likes of Sanchez, Moura etc these are probably the best players available in our budget (PS I think both have great potential with us).
Players like Mane, Salah, Martial etc aren't an option for Poch.
I feel like I say this every window but there is such a limited amount of players available that will:
1. Improve our best 15 players
2. Want to join us (Not be swayed by a rival)
3. Are willing to fit into our pay scale
It would be interesting to see who you and others think these players are? I know our scouts should be capable of finding the odd nugget, a Payet maybe, but they are simply few and far between.
Whats hurting us is 1 or 2 of the top class players we do have wanting to leave - and Poch cant control that either.
StephenH
David Ginola
Good common sense post @Benny_Lad
Poch is doing good job. Yes he is frustrating with some shortcomings but he probably feels the same frustrations due our current financial situation.
We are not going to do any better without a huge increase in revenue.
Pochettino also is learning on the job and needs to be given some time.
Poch is doing good job. Yes he is frustrating with some shortcomings but he probably feels the same frustrations due our current financial situation.
We are not going to do any better without a huge increase in revenue.
Pochettino also is learning on the job and needs to be given some time.
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
We were consistently finishing 5th or 6th a mile away from 4th. Yes, technically we were a top 6 club, but never really a top 3-4 one, which is what we are now. So yes, we are punching above our weight.
And all this "Poch has never won anything in his career as a manager" is incredibly blinkered. He was coaching Espanyol and Southampton ffs! What do you think he should have won with those teams?
Freund was a simple defensive mid, we knew what we were getting and at the time it was exactly what we needed to help protect the exposed back 4. Plus he cost 1 million pounds iirc. what we dudnt know we were getting was such a fantastic character.
Sissoko is not what we needed at all, his performances and more importantly attitude stunk the place out at Saudi Sportswashing Machine, and yet we decided to make him our record signing.we were crying out for a Mane type, a wide forward who us rapid, can score and assist, but we go and spunk 30 mill on Sissoko who has none of those qualities. Why would you do that for a player that can just run around a bit. It was frustrating
Nothing against the lad but it was a bad deal and yes from all points of view one of the worst the club has ever made.
Poch actually signed him because he felt Sissoko offered something similar to what Mane does, here's the quotes from when he signed him. I agree we need a player like that but don't believe SIssoko is the answer. I don't think he's been as awful as people say but his touch and passing aren't at the required level but he does bring the ball out well, puts a shift in and has a good engine to get up and down. He would have injected more energy into the West Brom game if he'd started for instance.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...end-30million-on-moussa-sissoko-a7219236.html
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
A second glass of wine has given me inspiration for a tactic to break through those bus parking type defences. I call it the phalanx. Basically all the big players on the team ring Eriksen, who has the ball, and they all run in formation into the opposition goal. Sissoko can be the point of the phalanx or something.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
It’s the issue people never see... they don’t want to look at who he coached, just how many years
And on the subject of league places the higher you are the harder it is to go up one place ... it costs something bonkers when you look at the investment needed and we ave done it with minimal investment
Going from where we are to winning the league would take investment in the squad that I doubt we can fund under the current structure
Mulletperm
Mauricio Taricco
I'm pretty sure we could have got that kind of player for less than 30 bloody million quid.
StephenH
David Ginola
My take.
it’s more an obsivation that he is not an ‘elite’ manager with a large budget like his ‘direct’ adversaries . Thus people should not be so critical.
But he has some annoying traits in his management which are allowed to be discussed without ridicule.
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nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Actually not. I hardly ever hear it (outside of here). How we are playing, the company we compete with, its never ever factored into the reasoning.
We are one and the same as Pool/Chelsea/Arsenal/Utd... That we have half the budget is never even considered, to my eye.
THAT is how good a job Poch has done. People dont even pay attention to it now, just accept it.
Poch is, and always has been, the manager AVB wishes he was (and was supposed to be).
AVB, a manager that promotes a high press, high intensity press, wants to physically dominate the opponent, likes vertical passes, likes playing in transition, promised to work with youth and develop players...
When we signed AVB everything about him, that we bought into and he never delivered - is what Poch has done successfully.
StephenH
David Ginola
We would need a very well healed investor.
Sadly some on here think its an excuse and we bottle everythings........
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
People need tow accept that joe Lewis has no interest in footy whatsoever so he will not be plowing his money in
Everything we do as a club is based on what we generate ourselves
StephenH
David Ginola
We must remember this when have a sticky patch and the congregation are gearing up for a mass suicide.
Gazza
Frederic Kanoute
Some quotes "Sissoko is more of a destroyer" arf arf arf ... of who? Himself and the team?
But I don't want to discuss this further. Hopefully he is shipped out.
The way I rate a player is to see if he would be in any of the teams ahead of us? Or at the very least present a reasonable argument.
But I don't want to discuss this further. Hopefully he is shipped out.
The way I rate a player is to see if he would be in any of the teams ahead of us? Or at the very least present a reasonable argument.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Sissoko has become a thought experiment. Its the same as the flat earth society, nobody believes what they say, they just want to form a convincing argument...
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Very good, mind you could say the same thing about those who can not get the transfer fee out of their minds when talking about him and made their minds up before he played for us and will not go back on that.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Certainly not me.
If you frame the question as "Is he value for money" then my answer would be no, otherwise its not something I worry about.
Levy runs a tight ship, whatever we pay for whoever is fine by me (even if £40m for Sanchez raised an eyebrow at the time).
My judgement of Sissoko is and always has been as a footballer. Which he isnt
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parklane1
Tony Galvin
Certainly not me.
If you frame the question as "Is he value for money" then my answer would be no, otherwise its not something I worry about.
Levy runs a tight ship, whatever we pay for whoever is fine by me (even if £40m for Sanchez raised an eyebrow at the time).
My judgement of Sissoko is and always has been as a footballer. Which he isnt
I would never suggest that you are one of them mate
there are a few though.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
We were in for both Mane (I think) and Marital (definitely), we got priced out on wages. Which kind of proves the point really!
The players we need are good enough for elite clubs. Thats a very small pool in reality. Of that pool, we need ones who will choose us, and will accept our wage offerings. Which is an even smaller pool of players.
The Mane and Martial of the world - those are the players we will secure with the new stadium IMO. We will offer more competitive wages and make it a fairer fight. Even so, though, its still like finding a needle in a haystack really.