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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked

@harr1984 and @Mikey10. It is difficult to argue with your conclusions re: those big games. So what's the answer get rid or patience? For me it's the latter. Poch has earned that patience.

As I said earlier, Simeone and Ancelloti are two immediate answers. I’m sure there are others - Arsenal are investigating them as we post.
 
As I said earlier, Simeone and Ancelloti are two immediate answers. I’m sure there are others - Arsenal are investigating them as we post.
Listen mate I understand you are Spurs through and through but it breaks my heart to read spurs fans so willing to ditch this manager. If it happens I am certain we will regret it when he goes elsewhere and builds a dynasty at another club.
 
Some on here are advocating that Poch has done as much as he can for Spurs and maybe it is time to move him on. If this came to pass it would be one of the biggest mistakes the club could make in its history, and we have made a few. Poch is tailor made for Spurs and Spurs for him. There is no other manager could do what he is doing within the constraints he is under. None.

How many times do you read that Spurs are punching above their weight? Probably weekly I would guess. So if every now and then we revert to mean then let's not all get our panties in a bunch. Our wage level is 6th and that is our par. The fact we are even in the picture for CL is a testment to our good management.

We will qualify for CL. Please snowflakes, fudging grow a pair.
 
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@harr1984 and @Mikey10. It is difficult to argue with your conclusions re: those big games. So what's the answer get rid or patience? For me it's the latter. Poch has earned that patience.
He’s got enough credit in the bank for patience and if we get top 4 that’s still mission accomplished for this season. But he needs to up his game, top managers find solutions in adversity and I’m not convinced he does that enough. He’s never won anything, and I’m not sure how many more seasons we can make allowances for this if we are looking for progression. Many posters like to make excuses for the lack of silverware, but fairly or unfairly there’s going to be a time when there is real pressure on Poch to deliver more than just achieving top 4 and I don’t think that time is more than a season or two away....
 
As I said earlier, Simeone and Ancelloti are two immediate answers. I’m sure there are others - Arsenal are investigating them as we post.

Can’t see simeone dropping down to arsenal

Ancelotti maybe as he seems to not be wanted by those he would want
 
fudge sake lads. Wind yer necks in. We want to replace the manager who is on the verge of getting us top 4 for the third year in a row having finished there twice in the 25 years before he arrived?

The fella who had us finish 2nd and 3rd despite having not finished top 3 since 1989?

The fella who made us title challengers on a relatively small budget for the first time in decades.

Two months ago, everyone wanted Poch here for a decade to build a dynasty. Do people think that happens without a bad spell here and there? First sign of trouble, we’re looking for Simeone or Ancelloti. And we’ll have the cheek to complain about loyalty when a player fudges us off like Walker and Bale did.

No wonder Spurs fans have such a crap reputation.
 
The Champs Lge group stages were good but all games with a get out clause, unlike Juventus and Utd (and the League Cup final, going back a bit).

My point is that we don’t deliver at key moments (see also The Battle of the Bridge) and that hasn’t improved four years down the line with Poch.

You're only counting the big games we lose - we won at Stamford Bridge recently and i would bet my mortgage you'd be counting that as a big game if we had lost it, same with the run of games a while back that included Man Utd Arsenal and Liverpool. If you look for dissapointment you'll always find it
 
You seem to have a deep misunderstanding regarding the new stadium and how you perceive we will be hamstrung by the cost of it, for at least the next few years.

Our current wage bill is in line with our competitors when the ratio to turnover is taken into account. Our turnover is about to go up considerably and consequently the funds available for wages will also go up a similar level.

A naming rights deal will no doubt happen - the delay is classic Levy as he searches for the best possible deal - the bank loans that need paying back are relatively easy to service, with a manageable annual repayment required for a number of years.

So overall the funds available for transfers and wages are about to go up significantly.

As I said in the match thread earlier, please do not look at arsenal and what happened with them and just assume the same will happen to us.
I also seem to have read several well-sourced articles from reputable journalistic organizations that quoted the massive rise in the build cost and the implications of that massive rise in build costs on the ability to increase transfer fees pad and wages we can afford.
 
I also seem to have read several well-sourced articles from reputable journalistic organizations that quoted the massive rise in the build cost and the implications of that massive rise in build costs on the ability to increase transfer fees pad and wages we can afford.

To be fair it’s all speculation
No one knows how much has been paid previously
And no one knew we were gonna charge the highest prices in world football
 
Some on here are advocating that Poch has done as much as he can for Spurs and maybe it is time to move him on. If this came to pass it would be one of the biggest mistakes the club could make in its history, and we have made a few. Poch is tailor made for Spurs and Spurs for him. There is no other manager could do what he is doing within the constraints he is under. None.

How many times do you read that Spurs are punching above their weight? Probably weekly I would guess. So if every now and then we revert to mean then let's not all get our panties in a bunch. Our wage level is 6th and that is our par. The fact we are even in the picture for CL is a testment to our good management.

We will qualify for CL. Please snowflakes, fudging grow a pair.

We may well do but again, today, when there was pressure we looked unmotivated and we folded. It’s a recurring theme now.

You're only counting the big games we lose - we won at Stamford Bridge recently and i would bet my mortgage you'd be counting that as a big game if we had lost it, same with the run of games a while back that included Man Utd Arsenal and Liverpool. If you look for dissapointment you'll always find it

We can win games that are important but aren’t do or die. Every time there is real pressure to perform (Chelsea away in the Leicester season, Juve, Utd in the semi, today etc) we stumble. To me - post-semi final and today - given the players we have, it’s becoming clear it’s a management issue.
 
Listen mate I understand you are Spurs through and through but it breaks my heart to read spurs fans so willing to ditch this manager. If it happens I am certain we will regret it when he goes elsewhere and builds a dynasty at another club.

I absolutely love the bloke but I’m a realist. The last few weeks have slowly changed my view on him. He made serious mistakes before, during and after the Cup semi final imo, and those (coupled with his management of the second leg of the Juve game and today) make me think that he is not learning from past errors - increasingly I think that’s down to stubbornness.

There is no real evidence that he will build a dynasty at another club. He’s been managing almost ten years now and has yet to win a trophy. I am convinced that Mourinho, Pep and others would have picked up some sort of silverware with our current squad.

Honestly, nothing would make me happier than to be proved wrong but I can’t see it. I actually think Poch might walk away at season’s end; he has made some odd comments of late that he has failed to clarify and the squad seems totally deflated to me.

Anyhow, I’m totally fudged off with it all tonight and am done posting on it. I hope we go on and scoop the treble next year and I’ll be behind the team and whoever is manager at that stage - hopefully Poch, and you can all remind me that I wrote all this!
 
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I'm a fan of Poch but the fact remains he's a nearly man, like Jol was, I haven't looked this up so please feel free to do so but how long did it take Allegri or Ancelotti to win their first trophy, playing pretty football is all well and good but if we keep getting found out at the business end of competitions, there's only one man to blame.
 
Well at least he didn’t allude to there being a change in management at this press conference... so hopefully Levy et al are busy getting those players that Pochettino needs to help push us on to that next level, so the new gaff has a fresh addition to the trophy cabinet next season...

 
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Well at least he didn’t allude to there being a change in management at this press conference... so hopefully Levy et al are busy getting those players that Pochettino needs to help push us on to that next level, so the new gaff has a fresh addition to the trophy cabinet next season...

I think he’ll drink a good bottle of Malbec and devour a chocolate cake before sleep time.
 
Klop won titles at dortmond, 2nd biggest team in Germany, Jose at Porto biggest team in Portugal, Pep at barca with best team in the world and at bayern biggest team I Germany.
Allegri and ancelloti are similar, won titles at the biggest or second biggest team in the country.
This is the highest standard of club poch has managed at, 5th and by some way at best, so please remember that when comparing his record to all thees other managers.
 
I absolutely love the bloke but I’m a realist. The last few weeks have slowly changed my view on him. He made serious mistakes before, during and after the Cup semi final imo, and those (coupled with his management of the second leg of the Juve game and today) make me think that he is not learning from past errors - increasingly I think that’s down to stubbornness.

There is no real evidence that he will build a dynasty at another club. He’s been managing almost ten years now and has yet to win a trophy. I am convinced that Mourinho, Pep and others would have picked up some sort of silverware with our current squad.

Honestly, nothing would make me happier than to be proved wrong but I can’t see it. I actually think Poch might walk away at season’s end; he has made some odd comments of late that he has failed to clarify and the squad seems totally deflated to me.

Anyhow, I’m totally fudged off with it all tonight and am done posting on it. I hope we go on and scoop the treble next year and I’ll be behind the team and whoever is manager at that stage - hopefully Poch, and you can all remind me that I wrote all this!

You said the last few weeks have slowly... that’s 2 weeks man!!! That’s not slow even in this crazy football time we’re in
 
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