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Out of interest @simon harris when do you think was the last time we had a squad this strong?
Out of interest @simon harris when do you think was the last time we had a squad this strong?
3 questions:
1) Which posts (or posters) on this forum show anyone thinking Poch is a messiah?
2) have all the players Poch has bought been "atrocious"?
3) If Arry was the one "who established us as a top 6 side" do you credit Arry with also being in last season's title challenge, or was that actually down to Pochettino (regardless of how the last 4 games went in the end?)
1) I am not going to pick out individual posts, but you know as well as I do that there are those who worship him on here.
2) No, not all the signings have been atrocious, but far to many. Surely you realise that !!
3) I only said that Arry established us as a top six side (4th in 2 seasons). From that point onward we have continued to be top six. You may see last season as a success for Poch, whereas I see it as failure. Finishing 3rd in a two horse race behind Arsenal, and not even attempting to win a trophy is not my idea of a good year.
I accept that I tend to see the glass half empty, but perhaps my expectations are higher. I am older enough to have been going to the Lane for many years, and fortunate enough to have experienced many cup finals. These are the days I long for, not just finishing in the top 6 of a league we can't win.
I think the Arry squad with bale and VDV weren't far off, but I would say this the strongest for many many years. Unfortunately there isn't enough depth in certain areas to challenge for a title in the indefinite future
As posted by BrianofLevy
http://www.glory-glory.co.uk/community/threads/mauricio-pochettino-signed-up-till-2021.6336/
So you think Sissoko and Janssen are good signings LOL
Do I fudge but even the greats like Alex got it wrong ... Seb Veron was his record signing at one point.
Do I fudge but even the greats like Alex got it wrong ... Seb Veron was his record signing at one point.
Yes, I don't expect every signing to be 100%, but just about every Spurs supporter I spoke to when the Sissoko rumor was going around didn't want him or rate him.
Go on and who else? You mentioned Janssen previously and his stats and pay suggested that he would have a good chance at succeeding here. Who knows he could still come good.
We'll see Steff. I do think it's a bit easy to say "he deserves better to work with" after all it was him who chased Nkoudou and him who chased Janssen. After a while the judgement on how well such players do will have to fall on Poch.
As i say Poch has done well, but the above are examples of areas he himself needs to improve (i.e. targeting of players and squad integration)
How about Fazio, Nji, Yedlin, and Stambuli. Oh, how can you say that about Janssen, he can't hit a barn door
We'll see Steff. I do think it's a bit easy to say "he deserves better to work with" after all it was him who chased Nkoudou and him who chased Janssen. After a while the judgement on how well such players do will have to fall on Poch.
As i say Poch has done well, but the above are examples of areas he himself needs to improve (i.e. targeting of players and squad integration)
When did I say I had left them ?
From experience most people who post on forums rarely if ever go to the games. They are fans rather than supporters, and believe that being a proper fan involves saying nothing but positive things about Spurs. In reality people who attend the games tend to be the biggest the critics, and are most certainly the hardest people to please. This is because they have spent a considerable amount of money following their team, and therefore have bigger expectations of the players and manager.
14/15
Davies
Fazio
Alli
Stambouli
Vorm
Dier
Yedlin
15/16
Son
Alderweireld
N'Jie
Wimmer
Trippier
16/17
Sissoko
Janssen
Wanyama
N'koudou
harsh to pin the first years signings on Pochettino (good or bad) he had just joined and we had a DoF still and would have been working off previous targets im sure.
15/16 was a good window, N'Jie being the only blot
16/17 looking poor on paper i guess - Sissoko would have been expected to have a bigger impact on the first team and Janssen would have been expected to have been better cover for Kane.
i think you can group our signings in to three different categories - players expected to challenge/go in to the first XI, players expected to add depth to the squad/provide cover and players with potential that we're taking a bit of a punt on.
N'koudo/N'jie/Yedlin would be the punts (potentially even Dier and Alli in this one too)
Fazio/Son/Alderweireld/Sissoko/Davies/Wanyama expected to challenge for the first XI
Stambouli/Vorm/Wimmer/Trippier/Janssen expected to provide cover/depth
personally i think that's a pretty decent return overall and with the end result being that the squad is stronger than it was previously - not sure why anyone would choose to overlook the overall improvement to focus on the individual deals that didn't work out