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Manager Sack Watch
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Dicko
Paul Stalteri
Lol, They were building up Plymouths prospects this season earlier today. He's already had to apologise to the fans that travelled up to watch the game!Made a great start to another manager job, 4-0 defeat for Plymouth.
Kandi1977
Garth Crooks
Well, at least he spent the summer improving his manager skills, instead of doing punditry.Made a great start to another manager job, 4-0 defeat for Plymouth.
Oh... That's not right!
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Oh come on, he hasn't had a fair crack at the whip, I read it on here.
Seedy Ron
Jimmy Neighbour
Preston sack their manager after 1 game:
Ryan Lowe: Preston part company with manager after opening match
Preston North End and manager Ryan Lowe part company after losing their opening game of the new Championship season.
www.bbc.co.uk
DeanoAustin
Rafael Van Der Vaart
I would love him to do well because he was a magnificent player and actually seems like a fairly genuine fella. But I've never got the sense from him that he has any great insight into the game that would make him a great manager. It's hard to judge that stuff because you see a snapshot of these fellas and I'm not exactly Alex Ferguson either. But I've never found any of his analysis thought provoking.Made a great start to another manager job, 4-0 defeat for Plymouth.
Can't see this working for him.
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Preston sack their manager after 1 game:
Ryan Lowe: Preston part company with manager after opening match
Preston North End and manager Ryan Lowe part company after losing their opening game of the new Championship season.www.bbc.co.uk
Dicko
Paul Stalteri
He just said he gave the whole squad a gonading and told them they won't play for the club again if they play like that again... That's just asking for trouble. Especially after only one game!
parklane1
Tony Galvin
He was a great player for sure and that is where it ends, they have been one or two top players who have tried there hands in the managers chair but generally they rarely do well. Every thing they do as a player comes easy/natural but they find it hard when working with players who are not as gifted. They are exceptions but most of them struggle when they move into management.
I will add that i am talking about the top rated players not the good ones.
It's a different skill set. One doesn't equate to the other.
You'll have far more good to average players compared to world class players. So the likelihood of a wc player becoming a wc manager is very small.
They get more opportunities. Due to their name and who they know. Highlights the club and helps with sponsorship. They've also worked with the best. But converting that to a winning team is a jump.
DeanoAustin
Rafael Van Der Vaart
Yeah I agree 100% and if you listen to the likes of Rooney, Keane, Richards, Carragher and Rio, as examples, I always get the impression that they were in the game for themselves. They'd all have knifed someone else in the back if they thought it would have helped them get ahead. Not that Richards, Carragher or Rio were managers but they all have a very selfish, tunnel vision view of the world where it was all about what they could win. You can't be a manager if you think that selfishly IMO - there is too much of other people's brick that you have to manage.
I also agree that with some of them, Rooney included, he was brilliant but it was based so much on natural talent. He didn't have to think about what made him brilliant in the same way as some other lads had to do it just to improve. That then makes it difficult for the likes of Rooney to elevate others.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
I agree, one of the biggest problems is that the real top players find playing is a lot easier for them and they struggle to manage lesser players to do what they found easy. Of course they will be exceptions but generally its a struggle for them.
Baleforce
Les Bennett
I’ve got a lot of time for Rooney, but yeah, agree with the above, he was a brilliant player who couldn’t tell you why he was brilliant*.
Shearer is the same, they both instinctively knew what to do, but couldn’t explain what or how.
I hope he proves me wrong to be honest, seems like a good egg.
*He clearly worked very hard physically to keep himself in shape. Which was part of it, but he was a phenomenon, and probably doesn’t get the credit he’s due.
Shearer is the same, they both instinctively knew what to do, but couldn’t explain what or how.
I hope he proves me wrong to be honest, seems like a good egg.
*He clearly worked very hard physically to keep himself in shape. Which was part of it, but he was a phenomenon, and probably doesn’t get the credit he’s due.
Baleforce
Les Bennett
Let's be honest, Ange. We were a fudging disgrace in the second half of last season, if that's what we start with it could easily cascade.
Don't see it, first up, our results with a fully fit squad don't align with the "disgrace" comment, second, Gray, Bergvall, VDV, Johnson, Udogie, Sarr, etc. are investments that are really for the future, they will be important this season but they are not buys you make if the expectation is "this season or bust"
If we are 14th in November/December, yes I could see risk, but I think they are other managers that a bad first 6 games would put them under way more pressure
Lost Mango
Pascal Chimbonda
Didn't we get 2 more points n 2nd half of season than first half or something?
SteveAWOL
Barry Daines
6 more points in first half of season
11 Wins, 3 Draws, 5 Defeats, Goals For 39, Goals Against 28, Goal Diff +11
9 Wins, 3 Draws, 7 Defeats, Goals For 35, Goals Against 33, Goal Diff +2
Lost Mango
Pascal Chimbonda
Thanks, thought I remembered different when people explained why Villa came 4th.
Hardly a 'disastrous collapse of form' though.
DeanoAustin
Rafael Van Der Vaart
If you took the first 10 games and compared that to the rest of the season, you'd see a massive fall off I reckon. That's not really fair because 10 games is a small sample size and everything went our way. But perception is reality.
I think Ange could find himself under pressure if we start badly and concede a lot particularly from set pieces. The narrative of him being a one trick pony will ramp up. I do believe Levy wants to stick with Ange and that'll give him some leeway but I wouldn't want to be a manager relying on Levy's patience rather than results for too long. Hopefully, we don't get to that point.