Liverpool thread

[Mikey10]

Just so so sad.

 

[parklane1]

Tragic, RIP.

 

[SpurMeUp]

I know we aren't normally too sympathetic to pool issues, but this is particularly sad. Family. One minute there, then next gone. Shows just how dangerous cars can be. Supposedly a blown tire causing the crash?

 

[Gutter Boy]

Poorly maintained tyres are cause of so many accidents. Seen lots of them unfortunately. Not saying its the case in this instance but people buying performance cars or modifying cars to increase power but putting cheap tyres or not replacing worn or cracked performance tyres due to expense. Heat conditions in Spain recently won't have helped. Really sad news. Brilliant player and leaving a new wife and young kids behind. Awful.

The fact that part worn or low quality ranking ones are even allowed to be sold is insane.

So are those awful concrete central reservations which give anyone in trouble no chance, compared to the old metal ones you could bounce off (thanks to the greed of permitting double decker lorries and the associated regulations for them)

 

[NaijaSpurs]

This is just horrific news. Three young kids and just married

 

[Robbo]

Fitting that his last ever goal for Liverpool was in the Merseyside derby. A stark reminder that none of us know how much time we have and to make the most of it.

Makes you think, doesn't it. Recently married, just won the PL and the Nations League; the world at your feet as a 28 year old, successful both professionally and privately.

Then just like that, in a split second, everything's gone.

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

The fact that part worn or low quality ranking ones are even allowed to be sold is insane.

So are those awful concrete central reservations which give anyone in trouble no chance, compared to the old metal ones you could bounce off (thanks to the greed of permitting double decker lorries and the associated regulations for them)

Part worn or low quality tyres are fine....on a suzuki swift. The problem comes when Dave saves up enough to buy himself a second hand M3 but can't afford performance tyres and suddenly when he's trying to boot it to overtake a lorry on a windy b-road in the damp you've got over 400 bhp of power being applied to the rear wheels wearing a pair of davantis which have all the grip and structural integrity under stress of a raw sausage

 

[SpurMeUp]

Part worn or low quality tyres are fine....on a suzuki swift. The problem comes when Dave saves up enough to buy himself a second hand M3 but can't afford performance tyres and suddenly when he's trying to boot it to overtake a lorry on a windy b-road in the damp you've got over 400 bhp of power being applied to the rear wheels wearing a pair of davantis which have all the grip and structural integrity under stress of a raw sausage

Considering the wealth of the car owner, I doubt it was anyone skimping in this instance.

It’s possible the car was parked up and the tires cracked - but it would have had to have sat for years.

Far more likely is a pothole or hitting some debris.

While blow outs are not common they do occur. Normally drivers can ease the car to a standstill. But speed changes everything. Whereas at 70-80mph you can probably coast to a stop. If travelling at 150mph it’s far harder to stop the car rotating when a tire goes, especially if you’re not going straight when the tire pops.

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

Considering the wealth of the car owner, I doubt it was anyone skimping in this instance.

It’s possible the car was parked up and the tires cracked - but it would have had to have sat for years.

Far more likely is a pothole or hitting some debris.

While blow outs are not common they do occur. Normally drivers can ease the car to a standstill. But speed changes everything. Whereas at 70-80mph you can probably coast to a stop. If travelling at 150mph it’s far harder to stop the car rotating when a tire goes, especially if you’re not going straight when the tire pops.

No i doubt he's scrimped but you dont know the conditions of the tyres or how regularly he's been checking them. He was driving a lambo and that is not a normal car and the normal rules do not apply. The stresses those tyres are placed under can be extraordinary and if he's been driving it hard (I don't know if he was) but there could have been cracks developing. Or it could be road debris or damage like you say (or a combination). As to the ease of control at blow-out again you go back to the car being driven. I've driven a mucielago around a track. You are barely in control of the thing at the best of times. It is not a machine for a driver that hasn't been taught advanced driving techniques. It can get to 60mph in under 3 seconds from a standing start, foot down in an overtaking manoeuvre from say a 40mph start you'd hit 100mph+ before you knew what was happening and if the blow-out occurs during that period of acceleration you're essentially in GHod's hands. You're not in control of that vehicle and the forces involved in an acceleration like that are beyond anything you'd get in 99% of cars on the road. I'm not saying he is at fault, simply that a blow-out in a lambo performing an overtaking manoeuvre (presumably under at least relatively hard acceleration) is essentially a potential death sentence for anyone without specific training in how to react to a situation like that in a car like that.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

No i doubt he's scrimped but you dont know the conditions of the tyres or how regularly he's been checking them. He was driving a lambo and that is not a normal car and the normal rules do not apply. The stresses those tyres are placed under can be extraordinary and if he's been driving it hard (I don't know if he was) but there could have been cracks developing. Or it could be road debris or damage like you say (or a combination). As to the ease of control at blow-out again you go back to the car being driven. I've driven a mucielago around a track. You are barely in control of the thing at the best of times. It is not a machine for a driver that hasn't been taught advanced driving techniques. It can get to 60mph in under 3 seconds from a standing start, foot down in an overtaking manoeuvre from say a 40mph start you'd hit 100mph+ before you knew what was happening and if the blow-out occurs during that period of acceleration you're essentially in GHod's hands. You're not in control of that vehicle and the forces involved in an acceleration like that are beyond anything you'd get in 99% of cars on the road. I'm not saying he is at fault, simply that a blow-out in a lambo performing an overtaking manoeuvre (presumably under at least relatively hard acceleration) is essentially a potential death sentence for anyone without specific training in how to react to a situation like that in a car like that.

they are scary beasts

 

[SpurMeUp]

they are scary beasts

With traction control off, they are You can get sideways just from accelerating too hard! But all these cars have computers to quell the fury and keep the non-professionals driving in a straight line! I have one car with over 600 horse power, but it is hard to deploy it! On the road you almost never burry your right foot. And when you do traction systems cut in to help manage the power and stop the wheels spinning up.

Most cars now have a TPM tire pressure monitor light, so it should flag up if a tire is low. Who’s knows what happened to these two. If there was a light or they just hit something in the road at night. No doubt they were going rapidly. Otherwise they probably would have been able to control it. Thoughts and prayers for their families.

 

[Craig_J]

RIP Diogo.

Could not believe it when my dad (who doesn’t even follow football) told me he had died.

Swore there must have been a mistake. So surreal to see such a player just gone.

Feel the kiss of his brother should bit he ignored as well. Poor family has been torn apart