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Kyle Walker

Jurgen the German said:
I really don't begrudge Walker moving on. He was dropped/rested or whatever in most of the big games last season and after 9 years at the club, you'd want to be starting ALL of the CL games, especially considering that we weren't in the CL for the majority of his time at Spurs. That's without even mentioning that he's probably doubled his wages.

The fact is he does stand a better chance of winning trophies at Emirates Marketing Project IMO. Despite the fact that we have a better starting eleven IMO, he was right about saying we lacked the "edge" to win trophies. I don't know what word I was use to describe it but we do clearly lack that extra 5% or 10% that's required to get you over the line.
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You may be right but until he was dropped was he not a part of the team that lacked the edge? And you have to ask why he was dropped in the first place, right at at the business end of the season.

Sounds harsh because defensively he was outstanding but maybe Poch concluded we needed someone more creative going forward? True Walker had his attacking moments but It was frustrating the number of times he would tear down the flank then come to a complete halt not knowing what to do with the ball. Those occasions allowed the opposition time to get back in numbers and thwart what might otherwise have been a more successful attack.

At the end of the day he did not prove good enough to make the difference. Neither did Trippier of course but it will be interesting to see how the two clubs fair this coming season.

And how much of a difference Walker makes to City.
 
Jurgen the German said:
I really don't begrudge Walker moving on. He was dropped/rested or whatever in most of the big games last season and after 9 years at the club, you'd want to be starting ALL of the CL games, especially considering that we weren't in the CL for the majority of his time at Spurs. That's without even mentioning that he's probably doubled his wages.

The fact is he does stand a better chance of winning trophies at Emirates Marketing Project IMO. Despite the fact that we have a better starting eleven IMO, he was right about saying we lacked the "edge" to win trophies. I don't know what word I was use to describe it but we do clearly lack that extra 5% or 10% that's required to get you over the line.
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I'd use the words £1bn of oil money and cheating the system with flimflam ticket sales and sponsorships.
 
scaramanga said:
I'd use the words £1bn of oil money and cheating the system with flimflam ticket sales and sponsorships.
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Of course the money helps but other clubs who don't have Emirates Marketing Project's resources have won trophies in the last 10 years, Arsenal and Liverpool come to mind, and we have had better teams than them for a lot of that time.
 
Spur of the moment said:
You may be right but until he was dropped was he not a part of the team that lacked the edge? And you have to ask why he was dropped in the first place, right at at the business end of the season.

Sounds harsh because defensively he was outstanding but maybe Poch concluded we needed someone more creative going forward? True Walker had his attacking moments but It was frustrating the number of times he would tear down the flank then come to a complete halt not knowing what to do with the ball. Those occasions allowed the opposition time to get back in numbers and thwart what might otherwise have been a more successful attack.

At the end of the day he did not prove good enough to make the difference. Neither did Trippier of course but it will be interesting to see how the two clubs fair this coming season.

And how much of a difference Walker makes to City.
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I suppose you could argue that the faults highlighted here are things that could have been coached out of him.
 
Mikey10 said:
I suppose you could argue that the faults highlighted here are things that could have been coached out of him.
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No question he improved one heck of a lot under Poch, both defensively and in attack, even so Trippier showed much more spark going forward.

It will be interesting to see whether Guardiola can eradicate Walker's tendency to come to an abrupt halt after bombing down the flank. Also he remains prone to the occasional brainfart at the back so there is still plenty for Guardiola to work on.
 
Spur of the moment said:
No question he improved one heck of a lot under Poch, both defensively and in attack, even so Trippier showed much more spark going forward.

It will be interesting to see whether Guardiola can eradicate Walker's tendency to come to an abrupt halt after bombing down the flank. Also he remains prone to the occasional brainfart at the back so there is still plenty for Guardiola to work on.
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Guardiola is a top coach but he's not exactly famed for his defensive coaching as far as I know. Walker will definitely improve them but he'll also make the odd costly brainfart and their defence is very poor overall so I don't see him getting much better in terms of conceding goals.
 
Spur of the moment said:
You may be right but until he was dropped was he not a part of the team that lacked the edge? And you have to ask why he was dropped in the first place, right at at the business end of the season.

Sounds harsh because defensively he was outstanding but maybe Poch concluded we needed someone more creative going forward? True Walker had his attacking moments but It was frustrating the number of times he would tear down the flank then come to a complete halt not knowing what to do with the ball. Those occasions allowed the opposition time to get back in numbers and thwart what might otherwise have been a more successful attack.

At the end of the day he did not prove good enough to make the difference. Neither did Trippier of course but it will be interesting to see how the two clubs fair this coming season.

And how much of a difference Walker makes to City.
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Who knows? I think his fitness was a genuine concern to Poch i.e. tje ability to play 2 games a week. I also noticed his pace had deteriorated slightly at times last season, even if only by 1 or 2%. Once his pace goes, he won't be half the player he is now.

That being said, we are weaker with him gone and Trippier being installed as first choice in my opinion, assuming we don't sign another RB. Trippier just isn't good enough defensively and I can see him coming unstuck against the big sides.
 
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