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Keep or get rid

Mulletperm

Mauricio Taricco
I see a lot of posts from people suggesting the Ange be got rid of, but very little in way of criticism against the actual players on the pitch. So I figured I'd give my thoughts on our players and whether I believe they're good enough, or we should look for replacements.

Vicario - get rid. Good shot-stopper but so incredibly weak with anything crossed in.

Porro - keep. Has been one of our best performers over past two seasons. Not great defensively, but offers a lot going forward.
Romero - get rid. If Real Madrid put a bid in, I'd bite their hand off. I think he's hugely over-rated. Switches off constantly.
VdV - keep. Sheer pace helps out massively in the way we play, and as seen before can be a great outlet going forward.
Dragusin - get rid. I just don't think he is a good central defender. Very error prone.
Udogie - keep. A tricky one, as I think defensively he is very poor. But great at going forward.
Davies - keep. Offers cover across a few positions.
Spence - keep. Would actually like to see him used more.
Gray - keep. Clearly talented and will grow into a great player IMO.

Bissouma - keep. He's a strange one, blows hot and cold.
Bentancur - keep. Looks to be getting back to his best.
Sarr - keep. An absolute engine that is everywhere, and offers great drive.
Kulu - keep. Much prefer him playing centrally than on the right where he is so easy to defend against.
Maddison - get rid. Luxury player who looks great when the team are on top and doing well, but goes missing too often in the more difficult games.
Bergval - keep go out on loan. Looked very good initially, but has really dropped off. Needs a confidence boost.

Richarlison - get rid. Simply not good enough, and can't stay fit.
Son - get rid. Has lost that burst of pace and often seems to slow play down. A bloody shame as I love the bloke.
Werner - get rid. How many goals has he cost us with his poor finishing? Great pace, and occasionally puts a good cross in but we need more.
Johnson - get rid. I don't get the guy. He often seems disinterested, or that he's hiding. Plus, he doesn't like to get stuck in an constantly backs out of challenges.
Solanke - keep. Has shown his worth recently, and I think with better players around him would really shine.
 
I think the way we approach we defending is our major issue, I'd give these players a chance to show what they can do when the game isn't a shootout every week.
 
The squad is good. Werner and Forster are the only two I don't rate. The rest just need coaching and time to mature.
I dont think Dragusins passing will magically improve or he'll suddenly develop any sense of calmness under the slightest bit of pressure. He may come good but right now he worries me

We have a good squad but we should be looking to add one or 2 players that are better than whay we have.
 
I think the way we approach we defending is our major issue, I'd give these players a chance to show what they can do when the game isn't a shootout every week.
This is also true. If we could at least protect our back four a bit then they might look half decent
 
The squad is good. Werner and Forster are the only two I don't rate. The rest just need coaching and time to mature.
Do you think Ange will get this squad ticking given time and having players.like Gray and Bergvall settling in? Genuine question.. we haven't seen much evolution for a while now
 
I'd like to see a new manager given a look over the squad before we make any changes, some of these players are under performing.

If the players don't have faith in the tactics they will under perform

It's not a perfect squad, but it's better than 17 league wins in 39
 
Jerk, jerk, jerk...
As posted in the Ange thread:

22 points from our last 18 league games. 11 defeats.

51 points from the last 39 games. Mid-table level of performance.
Nuno: 15 points from 10 games before his sacking.
Ange: 16 points from the last 11.

I’m happy to give him more time, but it’s hard to argue that there aren’t things to be concerned about.
 
Do you think Ange will get this squad ticking given time and having players.like Gray and Bergvall settling in? Genuine question.. we haven't seen much evolution for a while now

I didn't necessarily mean coaching from him. Just that we now have the raw materials of a brilliant team for someone to really shape.

I've probably tipped to the 'it's not going to be Ange' camp. I've been dangling for a while, but we're not improving this season. And we are still much worse than we were last autumn.
 
I see a lot of posts from people suggesting the Ange be got rid of, but very little in way of criticism against the actual players on the pitch. So I figured I'd give my thoughts on our players and whether I believe they're good enough, or we should look for replacements.

Vicario - get rid. Good shot-stopper but so incredibly weak with anything crossed in.

Porro - keep. Has been one of our best performers over past two seasons. Not great defensively, but offers a lot going forward.
Romero - get rid. If Real Madrid put a bid in, I'd bite their hand off. I think he's hugely over-rated. Switches off constantly.
VdV - keep. Sheer pace helps out massively in the way we play, and as seen before can be a great outlet going forward.
Dragusin - get rid. I just don't think he is a good central defender. Very error prone.
Udogie - keep. A tricky one, as I think defensively he is very poor. But great at going forward.
Davies - keep. Offers cover across a few positions.
Spence - keep. Would actually like to see him used more.
Gray - keep. Clearly talented and will grow into a great player IMO.

Bissouma - keep. He's a strange one, blows hot and cold.
Bentancur - keep. Looks to be getting back to his best.
Sarr - keep. An absolute engine that is everywhere, and offers great drive.
Kulu - keep. Much prefer him playing centrally than on the right where he is so easy to defend against.
Maddison - get rid. Luxury player who looks great when the team are on top and doing well, but goes missing too often in the more difficult games.
Bergval - keep go out on loan. Looked very good initially, but has really dropped off. Needs a confidence boost.

Richarlison - get rid. Simply not good enough, and can't stay fit.
Son - get rid. Has lost that burst of pace and often seems to slow play down. A bloody shame as I love the bloke.
Werner - get rid. How many goals has he cost us with his poor finishing? Great pace, and occasionally puts a good cross in but we need more.
Johnson - get rid. I don't get the guy. He often seems disinterested, or that he's hiding. Plus, he doesn't like to get stuck in an constantly backs out of challenges.
Solanke - keep. Has shown his worth recently, and I think with better players around him would really shine.
I agree to your list but if we are talking about a team that can win the league I think we need stronger defensive fullbacks. Porro and Udoggie are great if not world class wingbacks, as defensive fullbacks not so strong and lacks awareness in the box and are poor heading the ball. I do not believe you just can go out and outscore every team.
I would also sell one of Bissouma or Bentancour and try to get a monster in there! Which one, hard to say they are up and down, probably Bentancour have been the better when fully fit.
 
I see a lot of posts from people suggesting the Ange be got rid of, but very little in way of criticism against the actual players on the pitch. So I figured I'd give my thoughts on our players and whether I believe they're good enough, or we should look for replacements.

Vicario - get rid. Good shot-stopper but so incredibly weak with anything crossed in.

Porro - keep. Has been one of our best performers over past two seasons. Not great defensively, but offers a lot going forward.
Romero - get rid. If Real Madrid put a bid in, I'd bite their hand off. I think he's hugely over-rated. Switches off constantly.
VdV - keep. Sheer pace helps out massively in the way we play, and as seen before can be a great outlet going forward.
Dragusin - get rid. I just don't think he is a good central defender. Very error prone.
Udogie - keep. A tricky one, as I think defensively he is very poor. But great at going forward.
Davies - keep. Offers cover across a few positions.
Spence - keep. Would actually like to see him used more.
Gray - keep. Clearly talented and will grow into a great player IMO.

Bissouma - keep. He's a strange one, blows hot and cold.
Bentancur - keep. Looks to be getting back to his best.
Sarr - keep. An absolute engine that is everywhere, and offers great drive.
Kulu - keep. Much prefer him playing centrally than on the right where he is so easy to defend against.
Maddison - get rid. Luxury player who looks great when the team are on top and doing well, but goes missing too often in the more difficult games.
Bergval - keep go out on loan. Looked very good initially, but has really dropped off. Needs a confidence boost.

Richarlison - get rid. Simply not good enough, and can't stay fit.
Son - get rid. Has lost that burst of pace and often seems to slow play down. A bloody shame as I love the bloke.
Werner - get rid. How many goals has he cost us with his poor finishing? Great pace, and occasionally puts a good cross in but we need more.
Johnson - get rid. I don't get the guy. He often seems disinterested, or that he's hiding. Plus, he doesn't like to get stuck in an constantly backs out of challenges.
Solanke - keep. Has shown his worth recently, and I think with better players around him would really shine.
You missed one very important person out
 
I see a lot of posts from people suggesting the Ange be got rid of, but very little in way of criticism against the actual players on the pitch. So I figured I'd give my thoughts on our players and whether I believe they're good enough, or we should look for replacements.

Vicario - get rid. Good shot-stopper but so incredibly weak with anything crossed in.

Porro - keep. Has been one of our best performers over past two seasons. Not great defensively, but offers a lot going forward.
Romero - get rid. If Real Madrid put a bid in, I'd bite their hand off. I think he's hugely over-rated. Switches off constantly.
VdV - keep. Sheer pace helps out massively in the way we play, and as seen before can be a great outlet going forward.
Dragusin - get rid. I just don't think he is a good central defender. Very error prone.
Udogie - keep. A tricky one, as I think defensively he is very poor. But great at going forward.
Davies - keep. Offers cover across a few positions.
Spence - keep. Would actually like to see him used more.
Gray - keep. Clearly talented and will grow into a great player IMO.

Bissouma - keep. He's a strange one, blows hot and cold.
Bentancur - keep. Looks to be getting back to his best.
Sarr - keep. An absolute engine that is everywhere, and offers great drive.
Kulu - keep. Much prefer him playing centrally than on the right where he is so easy to defend against.
Maddison - get rid. Luxury player who looks great when the team are on top and doing well, but goes missing too often in the more difficult games.

Bergval - keep go out on loan. Looked very good initially, but has really dropped off. Needs a confidence boost.

Richarlison - get rid. Simply not good enough, and can't stay fit.
Son - get rid. Has lost that burst of pace and often seems to slow play down. A bloody shame as I love the bloke.
Werner - get rid. How many goals has he cost us with his poor finishing? Great pace, and occasionally puts a good cross in but we need more.
Johnson - get rid. I don't get the guy. He often seems disinterested, or that he's hiding. Plus, he doesn't like to get stuck in an constantly backs out of challenges.

Solanke - keep. Has shown his worth recently, and I think with better players around him would really shine.
The one's in bold are teh one's I would move on.

Too old, too slow, and simply just not good enough, to unreliable and I don't hate any other them, like the lot of them... It's just they are not good enough.

Kulu is one of the most voerated players at Spurs... Just don't see it. Useless on the right, better in the middle... But today showed all the flaws he still has.
 
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