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Jason Arday

The generic post which suggested you, Steff, myself and anyone else were wrong for even discussing this story….its an absurd thing for him to say Marty.

A guy just killed himself in the wake of incredible scrutiny and pressure from the media and other commentators. I don't think me expressing the fact that I feel some topics just don't need the level of discussion that this clearly got is an absurd thing for me to say. I've said similar on here about other things. The internet gives everyone a megaphone and a vast number of people feel they need to use that megaphone at every opportunity, whatever the cost.
 
A guy just killed himself in the wake of incredible scrutiny and pressure from the media and other commentators. I don't think me expressing the fact that I feel some topics just don't need the level of discussion that this clearly got is an absurd thing for me to say. I've said similar on here about other things. The internet gives everyone a megaphone and a vast number of people feel they need to use that megaphone at every opportunity, whatever the cost.

I will also contend rob would never have started this thread if Arday wasn't black. He's tried his best to try and make it about all else but ultimately he is, in my view, a massive bigot who also clearly lacks any compassion.
 
A guy just killed himself in the wake of incredible scrutiny and pressure from the media and other commentators. I don't think me expressing the fact that I feel some topics just don't need the level of discussion that this clearly got is an absurd thing for me to say. I've said similar on here about other things. The internet gives everyone a megaphone and a vast number of people feel they need to use that megaphone at every opportunity, whatever the cost.

So when people say the media and reddit forums are responsible for stirring up hatred and responsible for the murders of Anne Widdocombe & Charlie Kirk you are in agreement?

Because I think that’s equallly absurd to be honest.
 
No in general.

But I will say and include myself in this, we could all have shown greater empathy for someone who was clearly in a bad place, I would rather self reflect on that than double down on their ills.

@revlis post wasn't a direct response to you but you felt the need to retell the story and "defend yourself"

The blokes killed himself, maybe take your foot off the gas fella

I repeatedly pointed out that the more I read, the more it looked like he was a victim of being used and manipulated.
I also made it pretty clear that I felt his autism/spectral diagnosis as a child was very significant. I ended up in a bizarre debate where I had to explain the premise of masking among other traits.
Self-reflection is absolutely right, but the bottom line is there was one thread about this guy because he became headline news and cannon fodder, whereas the many others who engage in chicanery (and are NOT being used) to get into positions of power are not spoken of.

More empathy in general is a fine thing.
 
It didn't name any of us by name, neither Steff or I felt slighted by it (sorry Steff if I am talking for you out of turn). I certainly didn't feel the need to rewrite what they guy had done wrong to defend myself.

If your emotion at this point is nothing more than just sadness for the guy, then maybe have a reset fella

I certainly didn't feel slighted by it mate, especially as I tried to point out there were -when you looked beyond the headlines- a lot of other contexts and matters to consider, not the least of which was being used by a system and his childhood diagnosis.
 
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So when people say the media and reddit forums are responsible for stirring up hatred and responsible for the murders of Anne Widdocombe & Charlie Kirk you are in agreement?

Because I think that’s equallly absurd to be honest.

STFU you absolute weird fukwit
 
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