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Interim Manager Discussion - Igor Tudor joined until end of season

Would you have these as interim manager to finish the season?

  • John Heitinga

  • Current Coach (Lewis, Cochrane, Burnett, Carr)

  • Ryan Mason

  • Jurgen Klinsmann

  • Chris Hughton

  • Brendan Rodgers

  • Edin Trzic

  • Gareth Southgate

  • Former Manager Hoddle/Jol/Redknapp/Sherwood

  • Stick with Frank no matter what

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BrentwoodSpur said:
We can absolutely do our part in getting behind the team at home. It’s all we as fans can do and we must do it
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It’s hard when the players are not up for it or the manager gets it wrong week in week out.

The only times I can remember in the recent years where the fans were bouncing week in week out regardless of the result was under Pochettino and Redknapp but it was most fun under Jol as we had no expectation but it was swashbuckling.

I don’t expect that immediately but Martin Jol set the tone and the fans responded thereafter.

Someone needs to come here and remind the fans what this place means to the fans and how good the fans can be.

That last game against arsenal under Poch still sends shivers down my spine.
 
braineclipse said:
It would have been crystal clear anyway that barring something almost unbelievable he would be done come the summer.

One of the potential benefits with him is that he's been in similar situations before.

It seems rather likely that the relationship between Frank and the players had soured. I think that's always going to impact performances. If they can't get their foot on the pedal for a relegation scrap with a new guy in even an interim our problems are insurmountable.

Another potential motivation imo would be - do you want us to take the CL games seriously? Get us to a position where we can.
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From what I've heard, Tudor is more clever than he lets on but he's not going to start a tactical revolution 12 games away from the end of the season. It's all about restoring a sense of togetherness within the club and convince the players to give everything in those remaining few matches.

We won't be privy to it, but every word coming out of his mouth will be more important than anything he draws on a board. I hope he finds the right tune and I also hope there are people at the club who still enjoy a positive relationship with the players because he will need every help he can get, in my opinion.
 
Its natural to feel worried when on the way in, you have next to no knowledge about the guy coming in. Yeah, we can read reports/articles on him but that's just us self soothing.

The lack of PL experience is the biggest worry/risk. Due to timescales we've got one shot at this.

I don't think someone like Dyche would be the answer BUT the guy that replaced him, Pereira, I thought had Wolves looking decent early on...until whatever went wrong went wrong.

What is true...is the options were limited.
 
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ricky2tricky4city said:
Its natural to feel worried when on the way in you have next to no knowledge about the guy coming in. Yeah, we can read reports/articles on him but that's just us self soothing.

The lack of PL experience is the biggest worry/risk. Due to timescales we've got one shot at this.

I don't think someone like Dyche would be the answer BUT the guy that replaced him, Pereira, I thought had Wolves looking decent early on...until whatever went wrong went wrong.

What is true...is the options were limited.
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Wolves were flying under him for the remainder of the season he came in part way through - Forest are a concern
 
DubaiSpur said:
I'm more than a little concerned by this Tudor appointment, tbh. Yes he seems like the sort of hardass to inspire some discipline, but he comes in as a largely Serie A-focused journeyman with no experience of the Premier League, and the fact that every single one of his tenured has ended badly is a warning sign.

If we wanted a grim relegation battler for 12 games, Sean Dyche was right there. I think he might even have a better record than Tudor.
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Dyche would never have taken the job, as is the case with the majority of other managers. There is no upside! Either they'd keep us up and that's it, or get relegated and tarnish your reputation forever.
 
Kandi1977 said:
Dyche would never have taken the job, as is the case with the majority of other managers. There is no upside! Either they'd keep us up and that's it, or get relegated and tarnish your reputation forever.
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Dyche might have done if we'd thrown in a season ticket for Brixton Academy. Gigs are his passion, and London should be able to rival Rock City and Rescue Rooms
 
Kandi1977 said:
Dyche would never have taken the job, as is the case with the majority of other managers. There is no upside! Either they'd keep us up and that's it, or get relegated and tarnish your reputation forever.
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You are having a laugh, there is no way Dyche says no to the biggest club of his career, and games in the CL! The ego on these managers would mean they fancy their chances.
 
Lemonade Money said:
You are having a laugh, there is no way Dyche says no to the biggest club of his career, and games in the CL! The ego on these managers would mean they fancy their chances.
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So many people online have the weirdest sense of "people won't take this/that gig". As you rightly said, it would be biggest job of his career, probably a couple of million with some bonus if we stay up (so maybe 3 years salary).

Any mid-higher tier manager would bet on getting 4 wins out of our run in, free exposure and good pay, plus a couple of CL games thrown in for fun.
 
Raziel said:
So many people online have the weirdest sense of "people won't take this/that gig". As you rightly said, it would be biggest job of his career, probably a couple of million with some bonus if we stay up (so maybe 3 years salary).

Any mid-higher tier manager would bet on getting 4 wins out of our run in, free exposure and good pay, plus a couple of CL games thrown in for fun.
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I dunno - if I'm an out of work mid-higher tier manager would i rather sit on my arse and wait for the summer job offers to roll round or subject myself to a few months of hell trying to turn around a sinking ship with limited resources (fit players)?

I think the type of manager we could attract now to get us out of this situation would be the type that wouldn't ordinarily be in the conversation for the job. Anyone with a good rep, imv, wouldn't see the value in jumping in to the situation we find ourselves in. Dyche fits the former, but ultimately our relegation battle rivals deemed him not the man to get them out of it, so why should we?
 
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Mabspurs said:
They gave him an 18 months contract though... we only wanted till the end of the season...
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If he (Pereira) wanted an 18 month contract....then you give him that if you are convinced he is the man that keeps us in the PL.
Even if he is the man you don't want after the summer....you pay him up and say thank you.
First things first...PL survival....at all costs.
 
billyiddo said:
I dunno - if I'm an out of work mid-higher tier manager would i rather sit on my arse and wait for the summer job offers to roll round or subject myself to a few months of hell trying to turn around a sinking ship with limited resources (fit players)?

I think the type of manager we could attract now to get us out of this situation would be the type that wouldn't ordinarily be in the conversation for the job. Anyone with a good rep, imv, wouldn't see the value in jumping in to the situation we find ourselves in. Dyche fits the former, but ultimately our relegation battle rivals deemed him not the man to get them out of it, so why should we?
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If you got 3 years salary for 3 months work? If you are being honest, you would take it. Any manager with a good rep would back themselves to get 4 wins out of this squad with our run in.

Dyche would be terrible PR for us, that's why he would never have even been considered. Spurs has to maintain some semblance of PR of a big club, so Dyche/Fat Sam/any classic PL survival manager would be off the table. With Tudor we can spin he was the manager of Juve/Lazio, top international player, etc, etc. little left field but still the type of appointment a top club could/would make.

Part of the reason I'm looking forward to Tudor is I think this squad has been horribly underperforming, I think the Ange hangover (he inspired players, Frank didn't, some of the acceptance of losses in PL from both that I don't think Tudor will), the lack of transition/attacking tactics and most importantly, tempo of game (one of consistents for me all the way back to pre Poch, if we play slow, we play badly, if we raise the tempo of game, the opposition tends to struggle a lot more). To the earlier point, I think any decent manager can see it as well, hence for the ask (4 wins) and for the money, most would take it.
 
Raziel said:
If you got 3 years salary for 3 months work? If you are being honest, you would take it. Any manager with a good rep would back themselves to get 4 wins out of this squad with our run in.

Dyche would be terrible PR for us, that's why he would never have even been considered. Spurs has to maintain some semblance of PR of a big club, so Dyche/Fat Sam/any classic PL survival manager would be off the table. With Tudor we can spin he was the manager of Juve/Lazio, top international player, etc, etc. little left field but still the type of appointment a top club could/would make.

Part of the reason I'm looking forward to Tudor is I think this squad has been horribly underperforming, I think the Ange hangover (he inspired players, Frank didn't, some of the acceptance of losses in PL from both that I don't think Tudor will), the lack of transition/attacking tactics and most importantly, tempo of game (one of consistents for me all the way back to pre Poch, if we play slow, we play badly, if we raise the tempo of game, the opposition tends to struggle a lot more). To the earlier point, I think any decent manager can see it as well, hence for the ask (4 wins) and for the money, most would take it.
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I guess we will finally have an answer if our underperformance has been because of the quality of the squad or the manager/s....
 
Mabspurs said:
I guess we will finally have an answer if our underperformance has been because of the quality of the squad or the manager/s....
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If we can get Tudor 14 or so fit players (Frank was crap even when we had 18 fit players) but even so yes I expect to see a difference
 
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