Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
Some earlier stats posted showed that our distance run and sprints made stats were very similar to Liverpool's.
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SteveAWOL
Barry Daines
FWIW those charts posted a few pages ago were from a BBC article on the 4th of October, so I don’t know if the same is still true
Premier League news: Distance and sprint - which team does it best?
Premier League news: Distance and sprint - which team does it best?
www.bbc.co.uk
This piece on our incredible sprinting stats posted before the Liverpool match show that we’ve taken on Bielsa’s mantle for muderball.
The Big Question: Which Spurs will turn up against Liverpool?
Consistency has been Spurs' biggest issue this season as Ben Bloom looks at whether they can inflict a blow to the league leaders
www.premierleague.com
Opta Analyst found that Postecoglou’s side rank first in the Premier League this season for sprints (180.7 per game), pressures in the final third (68.7 per game), off-the-ball runs to try and receive a pass (172.5 per game), sprints to try and receive a pass (59.8 per game), and overlapping runs (32.8 per game). Their average distance of each off-the-ball run (22.1 metres per run) is also further than any other team.
Whilst I can understand wanting to overpower opponents by outrunning them I’m unsure there’s quite such a clear benefit to rushing to take goal kicks when we’re leading games.
It all requires an extraordinary amount of work that is inevitably difficult to maintain at all times. In fact, Postecoglou’s demand for high intensity even extends to getting the ball back into play. Opta Analyst found there is scarcely any effort to slow play and run down the clock when Spurs are ahead in games, using an average of just 17.3 seconds (the quickest in the league by some margin) to take a goal-kick when they are winning.
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
The second article only shows one stat where you can compare us to Liverpool (and I'm not convinced that average time delay before restarting play is a massively important one. Even in that stat you see Liverpool in third place.FWIW those charts posted a few pages ago were from a BBC article on the 4th of October, so I don’t know if the same is still true
Premier League news: Distance and sprint - which team does it best?
Premier League news: Distance and sprint - which team does it best?www.bbc.co.uk
This piece on our incredible sprinting stats posted before the Liverpool match show that we’ve taken on Bielsa’s mantle for muderball.
The Big Question: Which Spurs will turn up against Liverpool?
Consistency has been Spurs' biggest issue this season as Ben Bloom looks at whether they can inflict a blow to the league leaders
Opta Analyst found that Postecoglou’s side rank first in the Premier League this season for sprints (180.7 per game), pressures in the final third (68.7 per game), off-the-ball runs to try and receive a pass (172.5 per game), sprints to try and receive a pass (59.8 per game), and overlapping runs (32.8 per game). Their average distance of each off-the-ball run (22.1 metres per run) is also further than any other team.
Whilst I can understand wanting to overpower opponents by outrunning them I’m unsure there’s quite such a clear benefit to rushing to take goal kicks when we’re leading games.
It all requires an extraordinary amount of work that is inevitably difficult to maintain at all times. In fact, Postecoglou’s demand for high intensity even extends to getting the ball back into play. Opta Analyst found there is scarcely any effort to slow play and run down the clock when Spurs are ahead in games, using an average of just 17.3 seconds (the quickest in the league by some margin) to take a goal-kick when they are winning.
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Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
Chrissivad
Justin Edinburgh
How good are Austin and whiteman outfield?
Liverpool are built for the press model
- Salah, Jota, Gapko, Diaz, Nunez, they can sub out 3 in the front every game, and as long as one of Salah or Jota is on, chances are they can stay clinical.
- They also rotate the FBs a bit
- Previously had utter workhorses in midfield, added a little more quality to it over time.
Very well done, there challenge will be replacing Salah & VVD, the drop in quality to next one down is considerable
Chrissivad
Justin Edinburgh
Bring your boots with you tomorrow...
Great, keeper and no cb's....
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
We really should have recalled Philips and Keeley before the noon deadline tofay
Kandi1977
Garth Crooks
Re Liverpool, I'd think it's a bit of both. Not having injuries to start with, having a fairly big squad of good players, which means you CAN rotate, and luck.
We had a few injured at the start of the season, Odobert arrived late, Solanke got injured pretty much straight away etc.
SteveAWOL
Barry Daines
Looks like Slot has ratcheted down their sprinting since the start of the season, to compensate for having some older players in the squad who cannot gegenpress like they used to back in Klopp’s heyday.
Looking at Liverpool under Arne Slot 🔎 — PFF FC BLOG
Ryan Gravenberch’s evolution, Alexis Mac Allister’s impact without G/A’s, and a look at Salah ‘s season thus far
www.blog.fc.pff.com
Kandi1977
Garth Crooks
Those stats do not correspond with other stats posted here, where Liverpool were pretty close to our numbers for distance and sprints.Looks like Slot has ratcheted down their sprinting since the start of the season, to compensate for having some older players in the squad who cannot gegenpress like they used to back in Klopp’s heyday.
Looking at Liverpool under Arne Slot 🔎 — PFF FC BLOG
Ryan Gravenberch’s evolution, Alexis Mac Allister’s impact without G/A’s, and a look at Salah ‘s season thus far
Very difficult to get anything out of it, when there's no context. Avg. Per 90? For what? For the whole squad? Per player? Or maybe total for the whole team, diveded per player that has played, and then averaged over 90 minutes?
Impossible to make anything out of it without context.
SteveAWOL
Barry Daines
Those figures posted a few pages back were from this BBC article following week 6 of the season, back when Slot was gradually getting Klopp's players accustomed to a new brand of football.
Hopefully there's a full breakdown of these figures in the new year, as they don't appear to be available on usual sites for public to see.
Premier League news: Distance and sprint - which team does it best?
Premier League news: Distance and sprint - which team does it best?
www.bbc.com
Chrissivad
Justin Edinburgh
Can we scrap the hotels and build a hospital?
SteveAWOL
Barry Daines
FWIW this was following week 11 of this season.
Analysis: Patience and pragmatism driving Slot's dream start
Adrian Clarke explains how Dutchman has set a RECORD with his early success at Liverpool
www.premierleague.com
Liverpool are also learning how to become more efficient with their use of energy. Klopp was a manager who demanded incredible levels of intensity from his players, both in and out of possession, but his replacement has stripped that back a bit.
The Reds cover less distance under Slot, who prefers more of a mid-pitch block than the high press that was so synonymous with his German predecessor. Defending from the front is important for all teams, but Liverpool’s press is not as regular or fervent as it was, with their number of pressed sequences per 90 minutes dropping sharply.
A measure of pressing intensity, PPDA is calculated as follows: the number of passes completed by the opposition divided by the number of defensive actions by the out-of-possession team (defensive actions are interceptions, successful tackles, attempted tackles and fouls) Last season their average of 15.8 was the highest in the Premier League, but as it stands they are ranked joint-11th, with 11.5 per 90.
Bullet
Colin Calderwood
I'm confused, they mention PPDA of 15.8 being great (1st) and 11.5 being meh (11th).
Then the table they show has PPDA of 8 being great (2nd) and 10.8 being very good (4th).
So what is a good number here... is it 15.8 or 8?
And actually are we saying PPDA for yourselves should be low (you don't allow the oppo to pass) whereas PPDA for your opposition should be high.. or vice versa... is there PPDA for yourselves and PPDA for opponents???
SteveAWOL
Barry Daines
Hmmm, guess whomever penned that article missed out some text in that paragraph which should differentiate between Klopp’s low number of PPDA permitted and the high amount PS per game vs Slot this season.
We’re top of this season’s PPDA table with a figure of 8.6 before the Bournemouth game (they’re in 7th with 11.2 PPDA) but I cannot find a more recent set of figures for us.
Bring the Chaos: Why Bournemouth vs Spurs Promises High-Intensity Entertainment | Opta Analyst
Bournemouth vs Tottenham looks set to be a game of high pressing, turnovers and a lot of running off the ball. We're ready for the chaos.
This is the PPDA table from the end of 2023/24 season.
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Yiddo
Jack Jull
Liverpool are devastating on the counter but the way they play is not dissimilar to the way they played under Klopp. They pass it round the outside of the box, get it to Trent and he whips a ball into the back post. They have runners in the back post knowing Trent and Robinson will find them and if the balls loose they have players in the box to tap it in.Looks like Slot has ratcheted down their sprinting since the start of the season, to compensate for having some older players in the squad who cannot gegenpress like they used to back in Klopp’s heyday.
Looking at Liverpool under Arne Slot 🔎 — PFF FC BLOG
Ryan Gravenberch’s evolution, Alexis Mac Allister’s impact without G/A’s, and a look at Salah ‘s season thus far
Legohamster
Ian Walker
Such a ridiculous idea to play them both.
Cant moan about injuries if you are doing things like this
SpurMeUp
Gary Stevens
You have to have some stability to rotate from. Going forward - now - I think we will be able to rotate a lot more. It takes time. That is the thing fans simply don’t appreciate.