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Anyone who says Rooney was never good for England, forgets his early years. I remember reading a review of his performance in this game and it basically said he had the age of a boy but he played like a beast in a man's game. Didn't score but got a standing ovation. Crying shame he didn't push on from there, despite scoring a shedload of goals.
 
Gutter Boy said:
It was just in comparison to the teams they played in, plus their celebrity PR profiles.

Beardsley and Waddle were better players in equivalent positions, but just played in better overall sides, and in more humble times.
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I strongly disagree with that.
 
galeforce said:
I don't get the hate for Rooney or Becks, there is a reason they won so many caps, two of the best players England has ever produced.
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No hate for Beckham here, but I do dislike Rooney. Mainly because he could have been one of the best in the world if he'd picked the correct Ronaldo's fitness regime to follow.
 
scaramanga said:
No hate for Beckham here, but I do dislike Rooney. Mainly because he could have been one of the best in the world if he'd picked the correct Ronaldo's fitness regime to follow.
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guys a potato - genetics were always against him. He was also quite unlucky with injuries when he was playing well and in contention to be the best in the world. No doubt he could have been better with better fitness but only to a tevez / benzema level imo.
 
r-u-s-x said:
guys a potato - genetics were always against him. He was also quite unlucky with injuries when he was playing well and in contention to be the best in the world. No doubt he could have been better with better fitness but only to a tevez / benzema level imo.
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I think it's possible he worked as hard to stay where he was as Ronaldo did to get to where he is now.
 
galeforce said:
I think it's possible he worked as hard to stay where he was as Ronaldo did to get to where he is now.
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he liked the fags, booze (off season) and chips. He may have worked as hard to overcome the social things that meant he wanted to do all that but in absolute terms he was not as dedicated.
 
galeforce said:
I think it's possible he worked as hard to stay where he was as Ronaldo did to get to where he is now.
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r-u-s-x said:
he liked the fags, booze (off season) and chips. He may have worked as hard to overcome the social things that meant he wanted to do all that but in absolute terms he was not as dedicated.
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This. He worked about as hard as Berbatov on his fitness but without the natural lean shape that allowed Berba to get away with it.
 
galeforce said:
I don't get the hate for Rooney or Becks, there is a reason they won so many caps, two of the best players England has ever produced.
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Rooney was certainly one of the best, but in my opinion Beckham wasnt as good as Darren Anderton, he just played in a far better team and had a media campaign to push his career forward, Anderton 7 goals in 30 games is far better than Beckhams 17 in 115 which is pretty poor considering the number of direct freekicks he took which were "in his range" (just wide or over the goal)
 
Gutter Boy said:
It was just in comparison to the teams they played in, plus their celebrity PR profiles.

Beardsley and Waddle were better players in equivalent positions, but just played in better overall sides, and in more humble times.
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K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
Rooney was certainly one of the best, but in my opinion Beckham wasnt as good as Darren Anderton, he just played in a far better team and had a media campaign to push his career forward, Anderton 7 goals in 30 games is far better than Beckhams 17 in 115 which is pretty poor considering the number of direct freekicks he took which were "in his range" (just wide or over the goal)
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tickle my balls with a feather.
 
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