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Independent newspaper to stop print runs

Danishfurniturelover

Danishfurniturelover

the prettiest spice girl
http://www.theweek.co.uk/69542/independent-newspaper-to-cease-publication?

News is going online, I have a very good friend who works for SmithsNews who deal with disturbting the newspapers and he said as soon as the Standard went to free it actually went up in circulation but that the were rumours for years that the indy was in trouble.

I have had some good tips off him that have helped on the stock market, made an absolute killing in 2009 when DawsonNews went bust after Smith took them over.

Never read the independent myself as I am not a climate change nut, still as someone who like to sit on a train(when i travel to London) and read a newspaper I find this sad.
 
Wow; i guess it was inevitable that one of the 'big' names would go this way, but wow when it actually happens it's quite significant...

You wonder who will be the next publication to go the same way...
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
http://www.theweek.co.uk/69542/independent-newspaper-to-cease-publication?

News is going online, I have a very good friend who works for SmithsNews who deal with disturbting the newspapers and he said as soon as the Standard went to free it actually went up in circulation but that the were rumours for years that the indy was in trouble.

I have had some good tips off him that have helped on the stock market, made an absolute killing in 2009 when DawsonNews went bust after Smith took them over.

Never read the independent myself as I am not a climate change nut, still as someone who like to sit on a train(when i travel to London) and read a newspaper I find this sad.
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Pardon my ignorance, but is that legal?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insider_trading
 
it used to be a good paper, it's been dogbrick for about 5 years now and their website has become an abomination

when they hit trouble they decided to ape buzzfeed, which for my mind means they deserve it
 
How long before they are all online only? Surely it will happen, younger people don't buy papers do they?
 
the dza said:
How long before they are all online only? Surely it will happen, younger people don't buy papers do they?
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They'll have to come up with a decent payment model first.

Most people don't want their news from one source - for that reason a pay wall won't work long term (at least not in the current format)
 
the dza said:
Pardon my ignorance, but is that legal?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insider_trading
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Apparently it was, the company told their staff(dawsonsnews) in the August that the following January News International was going to switch to SmithsNews for its supplier. The people who were experienced with this industry all thought that the other papers would follow news international as they were/are so big.

The guy I knew and some of his colleagues asked if they were allowed to put money into shares with the rival company and as they were not senior managers and all the information they had was also released information in the public domain it was allowed. I saw one of my friends mates from work who is the most tight fisted arse you ever met, take a loan out, that was when I got on board.

Sometimes in life you just get an amazing opportunity and you take them when they come along. All totally legit.
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
Apparently it was, the company told their staff(dawsonsnews) in the August that the following January News International was going to switch to SmithsNews for its supplier. The people who were experienced with this industry all thought that the other papers would follow news international as they were/are so big.

The guy I knew and some of his colleagues asked if they were allowed to put money into shares with the rival company and as they were not senior managers and all the information they had was also released information in the public domain it was allowed. I saw one of my friends mates from work who is the most tight fisted arse you ever met, take a loan out, that was when I got on board.

Sometimes in life you just get an amazing opportunity and you take them when they come along. All totally legit.
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Fair enough mate, I personally wouldn't care if it was anything dodgy, you just never know who's reading this sh1t. I'll take my tinfoil hat off now...
 
the dza said:
Fair enough mate, I personally wouldn't care if it was anything dodgy, you just never know who's reading this sh1t. I'll take my tinfoil hat off now...
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Im stupid but not that stupid I dont admit to anything illegal that I have done on here.

I spent many years doing jobs that were cash in hand and I of course paid full tax on those earnings.
 
scaramanga said:
Hoping for the Grauniad
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Personally, I would not want to see any of the "quality" papers close and although I only very rarely read the Indie, it is a shame to see it close. A healthy media needs plurality.

I don't think that any of the broadsheets are making any money and rumours are that the Barclay brothers are looking to sell the Telegraph. The Guardian is being funded by their sale of Exchange and Mart and the Times' experiment with a pay wall has been a failure. I think that maybe the FT have got closest to getting it right but they have the advantage of being a bit more specialist and having less competition.
 
milo said:
Personally, I would not want to see any of the "quality" papers close and although I only very rarely read the Indie, it is a shame to see it close. A healthy media needs plurality.

I don't think that any of the broadsheets are making any money and rumours are that the Barclay brothers are looking to sell the Telegraph. The Guardian is being funded by their sale of Exchange and Mart and the Times' experiment with a pay wall has been a failure. I think that maybe the FT have got closest to getting it right but they have the advantage of being a bit more specialist and having less competition.
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The Times and the Grauniad are at each end of the pay wall spectrum and their losses are pretty much the same.

My biggest concern is the loss of specialist reporters - especially in science and medicine. We're seeing the same thing in sports reporting too IMO - too many people who can write but don't understand the subject.

If the Grauniad is serious about staying afloat, my suggestion is that they start by cutting off Owen Jones' mangina and choking him on it. That would simultaneously save money and double the quality of their newspaper. The odd spellcheck wouldn't go amiss either.
 
scaramanga said:
The Times and the Grauniad are at each end of the pay wall spectrum and their losses are pretty much the same.

My biggest concern is the loss of specialist reporters - especially in science and medicine. We're seeing the same thing in sports reporting too IMO - too many people who can write but don't understand the subject.

If the Grauniad is serious about staying afloat, my suggestion is that they start by cutting off Owen Jones' mangina and choking him on it. That would simultaneously save money and double the quality of their newspaper. The odd spellcheck wouldn't go amiss either.
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I agree about the loss of specialists, all of the broadsheets are far worse in this respect than they were ten years ago. What has happened to the Telegraph is shocking, I rarely agree with their editorial line but in the past, they have always had writers and commentators who were worth reading and their sports coverage was the best in Fleet Street but there is nothing there now.

The Guardian is following an international strategy and is doing quite well at picking up digital readers but making fudge all money. The rumour is that the Guardian is going to introduce a pay wall for some of its specialist content. They are in a funny place at the moment whilst the new editor settles in.

I am no fan of Owen Jones but all newspapers have their weaker writers.
 
milo said:
I agree about the loss of specialists, all of the broadsheets are far worse in this respect than they were ten years ago. What has happened to the Telegraph is shocking, I rarely agree with their editorial line but in the past, they have always had writers and commentators who were worth reading and their sports coverage was the best in Fleet Street but there is nothing there now.

The Guardian is following an international strategy and is doing quite well at picking up digital readers but making fudge all money. The rumour is that the Guardian is going to introduce a pay wall for some of its specialist content. They are in a funny place at the moment whilst the new editor settles in.

I am no fan of Owen Jones but all newspapers have their weaker writers.
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I read about a plan some time ago whereby all UK newspapers were considering joining a single "pay per article" scheme. Each article would only cost a few pence and people could pre or post pay for it (a bit like an oyster card I suppose).

That would then solve the problem of people either having one news source or having to subscribe to papers they rarely read.

Not sure what happened to the plan though.
 
Owen jones manages to make me tinkle boiling angry pretty much every time, his blinkered views are incredible, the point regularly flies right over his head, and he's a smug little clam as well.

I do read the guardian in preference to most others as the quality of their sports and tech reporting is generally quite high, there is also something to be said for reading a differing political slant.

All the broadsheets have a degree of navel gazing tossery, it's easy to skip.
 
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