I liked Erik Lamela before it was cool

[Bedfordspurs]

I'm not Lamela's biggest fan at all, but its hard to blame it on him - he came on in the 74th min when Juve were sitting back. I'd have tried Moura personally rather than Lamela given that Moura commits defenders by running at them and half the Juve team seemed to be on bookings. I don't really see what some people see in Lamela apart from effort, attitude, work-rate etc but a 74th min sub is generally in hope rather than expectation, so its hard to blame Lamela for not doing much when he came on

Sorry if it sounds like I’m blaming him. I actually blame Poch for not being braver in the end but he has to learn in cup football you lose and your out...

But what bugs me with him is he never passes forwards and always plays safe

I’ll go back to palace .. we were miles better when we went off as we were less predictable

 

[Bedfordspurs]

We didnt have to go gung ho in Turin and nor did we we controlled the game at our own pace

Only by battering them

Don’t forget they missed a sitter and a penalty too over there when we were in the asendency

 

[billyiddo]

Yes he was

Still ask though... who were they against? We’re they (as I think) the final assist in a 2 nil win or where they the assist for the winner against a team that parks the bus

Do you ask the questions of Eriksen because the team as a whole this season has struggled plenty of times against park the bus sides and Eriksen would have played every one one of them...

 

[Jurgen the German]

But in Turin we had to go hung ho

Similarly we needed that when he came on

I’ll ask again... can anyone can any examples of him unlocking a packed defence in a game that mattered?

We know he has done it against teams that attack us so he hasn’t room.

For me tonight he was the wrong player.

He doesn’t run at players and has one leg... moura could have done much more being two footed and direct

On the subject of players being one footed, most players will always favour one foot over the other unless you’re Glenn Hoddle but I don’t understand how any professional footballer can be so one footed. Not singling out Lamela for this as it applies to a lot of left footed players in general. You would think they would constantly work at this in training.

 

[Rorschach]

I'm a big fan of Lamela normally but tonight I wasn't too happy with him. He had two chances to swing in a cross from the right with his left which he declined. It had opened up nicely for him, Llorente had just come on, and he choose to just play it square inside to Eriksen or someone. Arggghhh noise thing

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Do you ask the questions of Eriksen because the team as a whole this season has struggled plenty of times against park the bus sides and Eriksen would have played every one one of them...

Yes of course

But he has the record for pulling the strings and arguably plays a different role more like De Bruyne

Lamela IMO doesn’t and he meant to be playing like David Silva

I’ll await to be proven wrong

 

[glasgowspur]

Yes he was

Still ask though... who were they against? We’re they (as I think) the final assist in a 2 nil win or where they the assist for the winner against a team that parks the bus

How many caveats are going to put to prove your point?

You don't rate him, we get it.
To come in his thread tonight,and only his thread, and have a bash him is not on.
We didn't get knocked out tonight because of lamela.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

How many caveats are going to put to prove your point?

You don't rate him, we get it.
To come in his thread tonight,and only his thread, and have a bash him is not on.
We didn't get knocked out tonight because of lamela.

I haven’t been posting only on this thread have I

You even commented on my posts on the OMT

I post on here regularly ... maybe too regularly

I’m just interested in opinions

 

[billyiddo]

Yes of course

But he has the record for pulling the strings and arguably plays a different role more like De Bruyne

Lamela IMO doesn’t and he meant to be playing like David Silva

I’ll await to be proven

But i haven't seen you critique Eriksen or others the way you are Lamela in the long list of games against park the bus teams who have stifled us this season? And then when it's pointed out he was part of the team which performed much better in terms of creating chances AWAY to Juventus who.defended jist as deep (if not more so) you twist yourself out of it prefering to focus on a sub appearence tonight

 

[glasgowspur]

I haven’t been posting only on this thread have I

You even commented on my posts on the OMT

I post on here regularly ... maybe too regularly

I’m just interested in opinions

But he's the only players thread that you've posted in.

A lot gets lost in the rush to post and keep the relevant before the thread moves on.
So sometimes when I reread my posts I know I can sound like I'm looking for an argument, but I'm not.
It's a discussion, an exchange of views. I don't mean and certainly don't take any offence.
I respect most of what you say in general, I disagree with you on this, no biggie.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

But he's the only players thread that you've posted in.

A lot gets lost in the rush to post and keep the relevant before the thread moves on.
So sometimes when I reread my posts I know I can sound like I'm looking for an argument, but I'm not.
It's a discussion, an exchange of views. I don't mean and certainly don't take any offence.
I respect most of what you say in general, I disagree with you on this, no biggie.

No worries. I get people like lamela

I saw him play a lot in Italy and he was Bale Esque... but for us he is more like Vinnh Sideways

He doesn’t seem brave enough with the ball for me

 

[AdamB]

But what bugs me with him is he never passes forwards and always plays safe

I'm with you on that, and thats part of the reason why I dont understand why people rate him so highly. I dont really see him hurting teams, or committing defenders. For the 3 behind Kane, Dele and Eriksen are shoe-ins for me and you need Son or Moura to have some pace in the team.

I don't really watch Italian football but from the clips of Lamela's time in Italy which I remember, he used to run at defenders a lot, kind of like Son does for us now. He could do with bringing that back to his game

 

[glasgowspur]

No worries. I get people like lamela

I saw him play a lot in Italy and he was Bale Esque... but for us he is more like Vinnh Sideways

He doesn’t seem brave enough with the ball for me

I'm pretty phelgmatic in my support of spurs and our players, I can see their faults and their good points.
He does seem to lack that confidence of be adventurous, what he really reminds me of is the kid at school who is on the fringes and wants in with cool kids. every pass is weighed up to see how it can get him in they'r good books.
I do believe though he has something a few of our team lack, a winning mentality. A desire to win, to be the best and under the right manager he would be a different player.
Put him in a Jose or conte team and he would be an animal.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I'm with you on that, and thats part of the reason why I dont understand why people rate him so highly. I dont really see him hurting teams, or committing defenders. For the 3 behind Kane, Dele and Eriksen are shoe-ins for me and you need Son or Moura to have some pace in the team.

I don't really watch Italian football but from the clips of Lamela's time in Italy which I remember, he used to run at defenders a lot, kind of like Son does for us now. He could do with bringing that back to his game

He played just like son

Direct and at players

He also shot a lot

For us he plays within a shell almost

Safe passes and nearly never shooting

 

[thfcsteff]

How many caveats are going to put to prove your point?

You don't rate him, we get it.
To come in his thread tonight,and only his thread, and have a bash him is not on.
We didn't get knocked out tonight because of lamela.

Agreed BUT I did find myself screaming at him to throw his body at the ball as it rolled along the line. If he had hurled his body in there they’d have booted it off him! If Chiellini was defending that you can bet he’d have been all-in. You’re probably right, it probably is unfair but I was unhappy. Ditto the brick cross after the hard work at the back of the box when a roll to Eriksen might’ve been it!


Sitting on my porcelain throne using glory-glory.co.uk mobile app

 

[Spurs7891]

Now you see why we should start Lamela in big games. We were brilliant against Juventus in the first leg when Lamela started. But we were too soft in the second leg. The others simply go missing in big matches. We would have overcome Juventus if we had started Lamela instead of Son or Alli. Son scored but we didn't need to score to progress. We only needed to stop Juventus scoring which we failed to do. By the time Lamela came on, with only 15 mins to go, the game were already lost.

 

[spurspinter1]

Now you see why we should start Lamela in big games. We were brilliant against Juventus in the first leg when Lamela started. But we were too soft in the second leg. The others simply go missing in big matches. We would have overcome Juventus if we had started Lamela instead of Son or Alli. Son scored but we didn't need to score to progress. We only needed to stop Juventus scoring which we failed to do. By the time Lamela came on, with only 15 mins to go, the game were already lost.

Get to fudge.

 

[thfcsteff]

Now you see why we should start Lamela in big games. We were brilliant against Juventus in the first leg when Lamela started. But we were too soft in the second leg. The others simply go missing in big matches. We would have overcome Juventus if we had started Lamela instead of Son or Alli. Son scored but we didn't need to score to progress. We only needed to stop Juventus scoring which we failed to do. By the time Lamela came on, with only 15 mins to go, the game were already lost.

Sorry, this is just mega-bot-speak.
What on EARTH are you talking about? Son was great tonight. Had the refs had eyes his marker would've been off and Juve down to 10 men.

 

[harr1984]

But that’s lamelas job isn’t it... Pass the ball in a creative way

Eriksen was outstanding IMO and dictated the play. He was also playing centre mid when lamela came on

And having just seen lamela almost sh1t himself when reacting to lands header ... unreal

You take a walk but you get their first and score

Eriksen wasn’t outstanding,he didn’t have enough of the ball to be in that bracket but my point wasn’t to dig him out - was to highlight the difficulty in creatung when Juve went into such defensive mode.

I just think it’s wrong for you to call out Lamela like that, they are masters at sitting back on a lead - there was sod all space for us to create and manoeuvre in the way that we can and like to, the problem wasn’t Lamela at all. You give me one example of where he should have played a creative pass - every time he picked up the ball there was nothing on, no runners in behind the defence because they wasn’t allowed to. should have brought on who we wanted it wouldn’t of changed things, Moura wouldn’t of had the space to dribble etc

 

[harr1984]

Yeah, Poch should've bought him on really.

I’m sure you’re joking but Poch should have done a lot worse than bring him on and add some defensive cover to our midfield. Never felt safe against Juve even 1-0 up and Pochs subs (or lack of) until late is something that consistently bugs me...