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Harry Winks

Many would say Van Dijk.
The rest would say Salah.
James Milner says Allison.
There is no way that Wijnaldum has been "comfortably" their best player.

Again it’s opinions...
Salah has played well in about 10 games
Van dijk has been very good but his midfield has helped and one of the people that has done that is Wilnaldum. He has shielded then brilliantly
Did he play tonight as by all accounts pool were lucky
 
Again it’s opinions...
Salah has played well in about 10 games
Van dijk has been very good but his midfield has helped and one of the people that has done that is Wilnaldum. He has shielded then brilliantly
Did he play tonight as by all accounts pool were lucky

He wasn’t even on the bench tonight. Guess he has picked up a knock.
 
Love Winks, but I think he needs to add a little bit more to his defensive game to be a true indispensable piece, but he's been pretty damn good this season after coming off a hellacious ankle injury. This radar shows how similar he's been to Wijnaldum this year, who has basically been the most important piece of Liverpool's midfield. If he can keep this up and add a little more defensive steel to his game or improve positionally to intercept more passes, he could play 300+ games for us.

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I'd say that shows Winks has been a good bit better.
 
Henderson is a good player. Speak to anyone who has any experience in coaching and they are likely to tell you the same thing. He isn't necessarily a player who catches the eye of a casual observer but he is a player who tends to take up the right positions and do the right thing both in and out of possession almost all of the time.

I agree with you however that at 23 Winks is likely to further develop as a player, whereas at 28 Henderson is now probably at his peak.
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Speak to anyone using received wisdom and they'll tell you the same thing as everyone else relying on received wisdom.
 
Walks in .. looks for Winks thread … sees nothing but cult of victims mutterings … leaves

p.s. was going to comment that Winks game has picked up in last couple of games, my opinion he has been far off his best this season in general, but some signs of it returning.
 
Walks in .. looks for Winks thread … sees nothing but cult of victims mutterings … leaves

p.s. was going to comment that Winks game has picked up in last couple of games, my opinion he has been far off his best this season in general, but some signs of it returning.

I think he played a very cautious game when he came back from his injury and seemed less keen to take risks. Poch said as much.
But as he has played more he has grown in confidence and we are now seeing more of the pre-injury Winks, with improvements. Plus from comments after the Fulham game it sounds as though he is really being encouraged in training to get more involved in attacking play.
I am looking forward to watching him progress.
 
Glad someone else has recognised how good Wilnaldum has been. He has comfortably been their best player and has hardly got the credit IMO

Personally Id say Firmino, who I think is excellent and most underated. For me their attack falls apart without him.

Liverpool dont really play much in midfield so it would be a bit much to say Wilnadum has been their best player ;)
 
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Speak to anyone using received wisdom and they'll tell you the same thing as everyone else relying on received wisdom.
I certainly don't receive wisdom from anybody who thinks they could've successfully sued Heung Min Son for completing his National Service for South Korea. ;)
 
I certainly don't receive wisdom from anybody who thinks they could've successfully sued Heung Min Son for completing his National Service for South Korea. ;)
That sounds a lot like a reading fail on your part.

I suggested that the threat of a court case might be enough to make him decide he didn't want to go and play soldiers. Most cases are settled before they get anywhere near a courtroom and I would have expected this to be the same.
 
One of the best performances he's had imo. Did everything really well apart from the cross field passing, he can spend the summer working on that.
 
It’s his ability to make space for himself under pressure that continues to make him stand out to me. Coupled with his good forward passes, driving runs, work rate and stamina, and improving defensive position and awareness, I continue to think he could be a title winning caliber starting midfielder eventually.

Would be great if he could improve his long passing though...
 
Something he's definitely improved on this season is how he can pick up the ball and drive forward with it, I didnt see him as having that in his locker previously. Maybe he's learnt that from spending time on the training pitch with Sissoko:D...
 
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