Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Some nice passes but he seemed to be playing deep to me.
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Harry Kane MBE
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Some nice passes but he seemed to be playing deep to me.
Off the pace I think really. No doubt he can ping a pass but he looked off it really. The dive at the end summed up
His night.
metalgear
Luka Modric
Not match fit. Well he's our captain after all.
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Hootnow
Jermaine Jenas
It's only two games, I'm 100% sure that he'll want to play and he'll be targeting it as a trophy.
Wrong decision to start him imo and I thought that even before the semi final. He played exactly as I thought he would and exactly as he often does after his ankle injuries.
Beyond the trophy itself, the prestige, whatever, I also think that a big trophy (PL, CL, WC) could have kept Kane here for as long as we wanted really and he'd have been satisfied. As long as we were still generally competing.
I hope we (and he) manage to win one of these big trophies soon.
Hootnow
Jermaine Jenas
Hootnow
Jermaine Jenas
Of course he was worse than them. Just the eye test was enough for me but I've just had a look at the stats and they're worse than I actually remember.
Passes Touches Shots
Kane 11, 26, 1
Son 22, 47, 3
Dele 36, 47, 3
Eriksen 40, 52, 3
Moura 5, 10, 2
That is a shocking performance.
Kane played exactly as he usually does when he comes back from these ankle injuries.
Firmino also has a very poor performance imo.
As an aside, I agree the unit of the 4 of them were the most disappointing part of the team for me. Kane poor. Eriksen didn't really provide the spark we needed. Son... Tried hard and almost broke through a couple of times but the quality just wasn't quite there unforunately.
And Dele. Oh Dele. I'm trying not to criticise individuals too harshly at the moment so I will say this. He's got a lot of scope for improvement next season and needs to make sure he realises his potential....
SteveAWOL
Chris Jones
Up until the 58th minute when Firmino got subbed there weren’t much between him and Kane.
The only real upside to last night’s 90 minute runout is that Kane should be match sharp for England duty and hopefully will be picking up that Nations League trophy as a consolation prize next weekend.
So frustrating, it's clear he wasn't fit and shouldn't have started. They showed his touch map at half time and he'd had 11 touches and I think only one of them was in the final third of the pitch (most were just inside their half). Obviously we'll never know but can't help but think we'd of caused them more problems with Moura and Son both running at them and cutting inside, VVD managed him with ease.
We need to stop him always starting, time and again he comes back from injury and takes a few games to ramp up. He should be treated as any other player and given time to get his fitness up and if that means he's on the bench for 2/3 games then so be it.
We need to stop him always starting, time and again he comes back from injury and takes a few games to ramp up. He should be treated as any other player and given time to get his fitness up and if that means he's on the bench for 2/3 games then so be it.
Hootnow
Jermaine Jenas
I think stuff like this shows just how these things can be decided on the smallest of margins.
Our two strikers put in basically identical performances.
Differences were:
-One of our players gave away a penalty in the first minute
-Their replacement came in within the hour, ours quite a bit later
-Our replacement was not for the striker becuase realistically, especially in a final like this, we can't sub Kane off the pitch.
If Henderson sticks out his arm in the first minute and Kane converts.... And Moura comes on for Kane at 60 Minutes....ah well, no point thinking what ifs.
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
He didn't look unfit to me.
People throwing around stats above to try and prove a point.
Comparing his touches to a player in different positions and an opposition player who wasnt playing against 8 men behind the ball instead with tonnes of space.
Kane played the exact same way as he did against Liverpool at the end of March.
If you want to use stats then compare him to that game.
Kane in March V Liverpool : 31 touches, 15 passes, 0 key passes, 87% passing accuracy, 0 aerials won, 0 tackles, 0 interceptions, 3 times fouled, 1 dispossessed, 3 unsuccessful touches, 0 dribbles, 2 shots, 0 goals
Kane in the CL V Liverpool: 26 touches, 11 passes, 1 key pass, 82% passing accuracy, 2 aerials won, 0 tackles, 0 interceptions, 3 times fouled, 0 dispossessed, 4 unsuccessful touches, 1 dribble, 1 shots, 0 goals
The media decided before the game that the big story was Harry Kane's injury.
Not Winks coming back from injury, no Aurier coming back and should he play ahead of Trippier.
And some of you lot have lapped it up.
I'd understand if he turned up plainly unfit, stank the place out and had to be subbed off ala Diego Costa.
Then that becomes the story afterwards. But every sports editor had a journo with a Kane story in the can ready to go at full time. It was easy for them.
No one is talking about Trent Alexander Arnold's awful performance. Imagine if Trippier had completed 8 out of 28 passes like that kid did. The Trippier has turned brick since the world cup narrative would be everywhere.
Instead Alexander Arnold gets "the youngest player to win two champions leagues" narrative and photos of him as a kid. That's because there is no predetermined story around him that journos have been thinking all season. People went into the game looking for things to support their existing opinions. The opinion here was "Kane shouldn't start, Moura deserved it". And that information was found every time Kane touched the ball.
People throwing around stats above to try and prove a point.
Comparing his touches to a player in different positions and an opposition player who wasnt playing against 8 men behind the ball instead with tonnes of space.
Kane played the exact same way as he did against Liverpool at the end of March.
If you want to use stats then compare him to that game.
Kane in March V Liverpool : 31 touches, 15 passes, 0 key passes, 87% passing accuracy, 0 aerials won, 0 tackles, 0 interceptions, 3 times fouled, 1 dispossessed, 3 unsuccessful touches, 0 dribbles, 2 shots, 0 goals
Kane in the CL V Liverpool: 26 touches, 11 passes, 1 key pass, 82% passing accuracy, 2 aerials won, 0 tackles, 0 interceptions, 3 times fouled, 0 dispossessed, 4 unsuccessful touches, 1 dribble, 1 shots, 0 goals
The media decided before the game that the big story was Harry Kane's injury.
Not Winks coming back from injury, no Aurier coming back and should he play ahead of Trippier.
And some of you lot have lapped it up.
I'd understand if he turned up plainly unfit, stank the place out and had to be subbed off ala Diego Costa.
Then that becomes the story afterwards. But every sports editor had a journo with a Kane story in the can ready to go at full time. It was easy for them.
No one is talking about Trent Alexander Arnold's awful performance. Imagine if Trippier had completed 8 out of 28 passes like that kid did. The Trippier has turned brick since the world cup narrative would be everywhere.
Instead Alexander Arnold gets "the youngest player to win two champions leagues" narrative and photos of him as a kid. That's because there is no predetermined story around him that journos have been thinking all season. People went into the game looking for things to support their existing opinions. The opinion here was "Kane shouldn't start, Moura deserved it". And that information was found every time Kane touched the ball.
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
He's in Rooney stage now.
Needs to stop thinking he is a playmaker and start getting back into positioned where his teammates can feed him.
Make goalscorers the No1 priority every game and only start getting into creator positions if the tactics determined it.
Needs to stop thinking he is a playmaker and start getting back into positioned where his teammates can feed him.
Make goalscorers the No1 priority every game and only start getting into creator positions if the tactics determined it.
90291Spur
Paul Walsh
Great points. I would also add that Kane playing instead of Moura was not the only choice. Poch could have started Son on the bench (I feel that the Kane/Dele partnership had to be tried) and given Lucas the start.
glasgowspur
Luka Modric
Let's face it none of them were shoe ins, they've all had good a bad games a case could have made for just about any formation with combination of the five of them.
Spur of the moment
Frederic Kanoute
Excellent post. No doubt had we won the game the angle would have been somewhat different.
The way we're playing lately, he'd have 0 touches of he didn't come deep for the ball.
Spur of the moment
Frederic Kanoute
Agree. Would be interesting to see the stats but it seems that nowadays Kane is looking to pass more and shoot less. He used to get criticised for being too greedy, for not passing to a team mate who was supposedly better placed. Well there were at least a couple of occasions against Liverpool when I wanted him to have a crack but instead he chose to pass.
We need our greedy Kane back.
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SteveAWOL
Chris Jones
I wonder how much is down to his repeated ankle injuries?
As Kane doesn’t appear to be as nimble as a couple of seasons ago and taking long range shots must put more strain on the ankles than passing.