Whiffler
Jermaine Jenas
Can anyone tell me what (or whether) I was thinking when I wrote that?
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Can anyone tell me what (or whether) I was thinking when I wrote that?
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
Ah ok fair enough, I thought it may have been dodgy timing for a minute..
NorwegianSpursFan
Neil Ruddock
Wonder how this will all play out. I trust FIFA about as much as I trust Blatter to tell the truth. Is it enough to kick out the leaders, or will there just be ten more like them waiting to take over. Only time will tell, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
inkpenspur
Allan Nielsen
The FIFA execs who voted for the 2018 & 2022 World Cups:
Still in place at FIFA
Issa Hayatou, Cameroon: President of the Confederation of African Football was censured by International Olympic Committee over his acceptance of money from ISL. He claimed it was reimbursement for money spent on CAF birthday party
Angel María Villa Llona, Spain: Still under investigation by Fifa’s ethics committee over alleged refusal to co-operate with inquiry into award of next two World Cups, which saw Spain/Portugal secure a vote-swapping deal with Qatar but fail to beat Russia. Now standing in for Michel Platini whilst suspended.
Michel D’Hooghe, Belgium: Cleared by Fifa’s ethics committee investigation into a painting given to him by Russia’s 2018 bid team and allegations he helped secure a business opportunity in Qatar for the son of a close friend.
Hany Abo Rida, Egypt: Said to have accompanied disgraced former ExCo colleague Mohammed Bin Hammam on a private jet to Trinidad where the Qatari allegedly sought to buy the votes of Caribbean football officials. Nothing was proven.
Senes Erzik, Turkey: Said to be among those who promised their vote to England to host 2018 World Cup before reneging.
Vitaly Mutko, Russia: Close to Vladimir Putin, the Russian sports minister and head of the Russian Football Union played a key role in securing the 2018 World Cup for his country.
and now gone from the FIFA selection committee
Sepp Blatter, Switzerland: Hit with a provisional 90-day ban and facing criminal proceedings over payments made to Michel Platini and disgraced former vice-president Jack Warner. Also branded “clumsy” but not corrupt in 2013 over handling of ISL bribery scandal. Denies any wrongdoing.
Michel Platini, France: Admits receiving £1.3 million from Fifa for works as a consultant to Blatter between 1999 and 2002. Faces questions over nine-year delay in payment but denies wrongdoing. Voted for Qatar to stage 2022 World Cup. Also banned for 90 days.
Jack Warner, Trinidad: Facing extradition to the United States on fraud charges issued by the Department of Justice. Retired from all football positions in 2011 after being implicated in the payment of bribes to fellow ExCo members. Appeared to be paid millions by a company controlled by Bin Hammam shortly after 2010 vote. At the centre of numerous corruption allegations, from ticket touting to taking kickbacks. Heavily courted by England 2018 bid team.
Mohamed Bin Hammam, Qatar: Banned from football for life after being accused of paying bribes to win votes during doomed 2011 Fifa presidency bid. Court of Arbitration for Sport found he “more likely than not” paid bribes to Fifa delegates.
Chuck Blazer, USA: Faced with years in prison, pleaded guilty to money laundering, bribery and tax evasion before turning super-grass for the FBI and carrying a covert recording device at London 2012.
Franz Beckenbauer, Germany: Under investigation by Fifa’s ethics committee over vote for next two World Cups. Alleged to have been heavily courted by Qatar but denies any wrongdoing.
Julio Grondona, Argentina: Fifa in June named its deceased former senior vice-president as having authorised a $10 million payment to Warner by South Africa’s World Cup bid team, alleged by US prosecutors to have been a bribe. Both Warner and South Africa deny wrongdoing.
Nicolás Leoz, Paraguay: Faces extradition from his native Paraguay to the US on DOJ fraud charges. Former Football Association chairman Lord Triesman claimed Leoz demanded a knighthood in return for voting for England to host the 2018 World Cup. Fifa’s ethics committee reported he had accepted at least £80,000 in bribes from defunct sports marketing company ISL. A list obtained by BBC Panorama suggested he had received at least $730,000.
Ricardo Teixeira, Brazil: Not named in US indictment and cannot be extradited from his native Brazil, where he nevertheless faces domestic charges of money laundering and tax evasion. Fifa ethics committee found he pocketed at least £8.4m in ISL bribes.
Chung Mong-joon, South Korea: Standing for the presidency of Fifa after being dragged into ethics investigation into the World Cup vote over various payments. Denies any wrongdoing. Hyundai billionaire had been a vocal opponent of the Swiss. Banned for six years and fined 100,000 Swiss francs by Fifa's ethic committee.
Worawi Makudi, Thailand: Under investigation by Fifa ethics committee amid claims he accepted Qatari development cash in return for his World Cup vote. Also embroiled in allegations surrounding the Thai FA headquarters.
Marios Lefkaritis, Cyprus: Revealed in 2013 to have extensive business links with Qatar. Still a vice-president of Uefa.
Amos Adamu, Nigeria: Banned for three years after being caught by the Sunday Times trying to sell his vote to undercover reporters. Denied chance to vote in 2010.
Reynald Temarii, Tahiti: Exposed in same sting, also denied chance to vote and banned for one year.
Jacques Anouma, Ivory Coast: Under parliamentary privilege, it was claimed he accepted bribes from Qatar based on evidence gathered by the Sunday Times. Fifa cleared him of the allegations.
Rafael Salguero, Guatemala: Lost his ExCo seat earlier this year to Eduardo Li of Costa Rica, who faces extradition to the US after being arrested in a dawn raid on Fifa’s Zurich hotel.
Junji Ogura, Japan: Forced to step down from his home confederation once he reached 72.
Geoff Thompson, England: Humiliated by England gaining a single vote for the 2018 tournament beyond his own. Still on three Fifa committees.
The clamour must surely grow for a re-run of the votes?
Still in place at FIFA
Issa Hayatou, Cameroon: President of the Confederation of African Football was censured by International Olympic Committee over his acceptance of money from ISL. He claimed it was reimbursement for money spent on CAF birthday party
Angel María Villa Llona, Spain: Still under investigation by Fifa’s ethics committee over alleged refusal to co-operate with inquiry into award of next two World Cups, which saw Spain/Portugal secure a vote-swapping deal with Qatar but fail to beat Russia. Now standing in for Michel Platini whilst suspended.
Michel D’Hooghe, Belgium: Cleared by Fifa’s ethics committee investigation into a painting given to him by Russia’s 2018 bid team and allegations he helped secure a business opportunity in Qatar for the son of a close friend.
Hany Abo Rida, Egypt: Said to have accompanied disgraced former ExCo colleague Mohammed Bin Hammam on a private jet to Trinidad where the Qatari allegedly sought to buy the votes of Caribbean football officials. Nothing was proven.
Senes Erzik, Turkey: Said to be among those who promised their vote to England to host 2018 World Cup before reneging.
Vitaly Mutko, Russia: Close to Vladimir Putin, the Russian sports minister and head of the Russian Football Union played a key role in securing the 2018 World Cup for his country.
and now gone from the FIFA selection committee
Sepp Blatter, Switzerland: Hit with a provisional 90-day ban and facing criminal proceedings over payments made to Michel Platini and disgraced former vice-president Jack Warner. Also branded “clumsy” but not corrupt in 2013 over handling of ISL bribery scandal. Denies any wrongdoing.
Michel Platini, France: Admits receiving £1.3 million from Fifa for works as a consultant to Blatter between 1999 and 2002. Faces questions over nine-year delay in payment but denies wrongdoing. Voted for Qatar to stage 2022 World Cup. Also banned for 90 days.
Jack Warner, Trinidad: Facing extradition to the United States on fraud charges issued by the Department of Justice. Retired from all football positions in 2011 after being implicated in the payment of bribes to fellow ExCo members. Appeared to be paid millions by a company controlled by Bin Hammam shortly after 2010 vote. At the centre of numerous corruption allegations, from ticket touting to taking kickbacks. Heavily courted by England 2018 bid team.
Mohamed Bin Hammam, Qatar: Banned from football for life after being accused of paying bribes to win votes during doomed 2011 Fifa presidency bid. Court of Arbitration for Sport found he “more likely than not” paid bribes to Fifa delegates.
Chuck Blazer, USA: Faced with years in prison, pleaded guilty to money laundering, bribery and tax evasion before turning super-grass for the FBI and carrying a covert recording device at London 2012.
Franz Beckenbauer, Germany: Under investigation by Fifa’s ethics committee over vote for next two World Cups. Alleged to have been heavily courted by Qatar but denies any wrongdoing.
Julio Grondona, Argentina: Fifa in June named its deceased former senior vice-president as having authorised a $10 million payment to Warner by South Africa’s World Cup bid team, alleged by US prosecutors to have been a bribe. Both Warner and South Africa deny wrongdoing.
Nicolás Leoz, Paraguay: Faces extradition from his native Paraguay to the US on DOJ fraud charges. Former Football Association chairman Lord Triesman claimed Leoz demanded a knighthood in return for voting for England to host the 2018 World Cup. Fifa’s ethics committee reported he had accepted at least £80,000 in bribes from defunct sports marketing company ISL. A list obtained by BBC Panorama suggested he had received at least $730,000.
Ricardo Teixeira, Brazil: Not named in US indictment and cannot be extradited from his native Brazil, where he nevertheless faces domestic charges of money laundering and tax evasion. Fifa ethics committee found he pocketed at least £8.4m in ISL bribes.
Chung Mong-joon, South Korea: Standing for the presidency of Fifa after being dragged into ethics investigation into the World Cup vote over various payments. Denies any wrongdoing. Hyundai billionaire had been a vocal opponent of the Swiss. Banned for six years and fined 100,000 Swiss francs by Fifa's ethic committee.
Worawi Makudi, Thailand: Under investigation by Fifa ethics committee amid claims he accepted Qatari development cash in return for his World Cup vote. Also embroiled in allegations surrounding the Thai FA headquarters.
Marios Lefkaritis, Cyprus: Revealed in 2013 to have extensive business links with Qatar. Still a vice-president of Uefa.
Amos Adamu, Nigeria: Banned for three years after being caught by the Sunday Times trying to sell his vote to undercover reporters. Denied chance to vote in 2010.
Reynald Temarii, Tahiti: Exposed in same sting, also denied chance to vote and banned for one year.
Jacques Anouma, Ivory Coast: Under parliamentary privilege, it was claimed he accepted bribes from Qatar based on evidence gathered by the Sunday Times. Fifa cleared him of the allegations.
Rafael Salguero, Guatemala: Lost his ExCo seat earlier this year to Eduardo Li of Costa Rica, who faces extradition to the US after being arrested in a dawn raid on Fifa’s Zurich hotel.
Junji Ogura, Japan: Forced to step down from his home confederation once he reached 72.
Geoff Thompson, England: Humiliated by England gaining a single vote for the 2018 tournament beyond his own. Still on three Fifa committees.
The clamour must surely grow for a re-run of the votes?
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
Wow!!!
inkpenspur
Allan Nielsen
It is a pretty damning charge sheet... not a single member of the 25 man voting committee seems to emerge untarnished. There are six voting members still on board... and some of those stink to high heaven too. How can anyone believe the voting system wasn't corrupt???
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
Trouble with FIFA is every country gets a vote, Soloman islands get the same voting rights as Brazil, Bhutan the same as Germany and so on. So all the head of FIFA or exec committee has to do is curry favour with the smaller countries and pretty much any vote gets through. Just see the last presidential election where Sepp had Africa, and Concaf sown up and hammered the other guy.
Unless they do something about this then the problems can continue. Some sort of weighting system by population, country (football team) performance, historical rankings, something along those lines.
Unless they do something about this then the problems can continue. Some sort of weighting system by population, country (football team) performance, historical rankings, something along those lines.
Just like Blatter being elected president with the votes of the smaller nations in return for some "investment".
inkpenspur
Allan Nielsen
A more light hearted view from Newshump:
Qatar has seen off rival bids from Mordor, Castle Greyskull and Russia, to win the right to host Sepp Blatter’s FIFA leaving do.
Journalists were summoned to a hastily organised press conference in Zurich to hear the news.
Speaking in front of the assembled crowd, Fifa Vice President Issa Hayatou announced the result of the bidding process.
“The process to win the right to host Mr Blatter’s leaving party has been very competitive…. And lucrative,” at which point he began cackling for several minutes.
A giant golden envelope, containing the name of the winner, was then carried onto the stage by several diamond-encrusted pearoosters, and then opened by Mr Hayatou who uttered the words:
“The Sepp Blatter leaving do 2016 is awarded to….. Qatar.”
The bid was praised for its inclusion of ‘women in tight shorts’, ‘slave labour’ and ‘a lack of extradition treaty with the USA’.
FA Chairman Greg Dyke, a staunch critic of Sepp Blatter revealed that, despite their differences, he would certainly be attending the party.
“He might be a bit of a dingdong, but this party is going to be off the hook.”
“I’ve heard he’s going to have an actual Thunderdome with people fighting to the death. No chance I’m missing that.”
“This is going to go offfffffffffffff.”
When questioned about the use of forced labour in preparing for the party, Fifa did their best to reassure football fans that they would ensure as many people as possible would die in the build up to the event.
“If the world cup in 2022 is running at 1,500 deaths so far, then we think we can top 5,000 for this party.”
“That’s way more than 9/11.”
Qatar has seen off rival bids from Mordor, Castle Greyskull and Russia, to win the right to host Sepp Blatter’s FIFA leaving do.
Journalists were summoned to a hastily organised press conference in Zurich to hear the news.
Speaking in front of the assembled crowd, Fifa Vice President Issa Hayatou announced the result of the bidding process.
“The process to win the right to host Mr Blatter’s leaving party has been very competitive…. And lucrative,” at which point he began cackling for several minutes.
A giant golden envelope, containing the name of the winner, was then carried onto the stage by several diamond-encrusted pearoosters, and then opened by Mr Hayatou who uttered the words:
“The Sepp Blatter leaving do 2016 is awarded to….. Qatar.”
The bid was praised for its inclusion of ‘women in tight shorts’, ‘slave labour’ and ‘a lack of extradition treaty with the USA’.
FA Chairman Greg Dyke, a staunch critic of Sepp Blatter revealed that, despite their differences, he would certainly be attending the party.
“He might be a bit of a dingdong, but this party is going to be off the hook.”
“I’ve heard he’s going to have an actual Thunderdome with people fighting to the death. No chance I’m missing that.”
“This is going to go offfffffffffffff.”
When questioned about the use of forced labour in preparing for the party, Fifa did their best to reassure football fans that they would ensure as many people as possible would die in the build up to the event.
“If the world cup in 2022 is running at 1,500 deaths so far, then we think we can top 5,000 for this party.”
“That’s way more than 9/11.”
jts1882
Dean Richards
It was the time when Platini decided not to stand against Blatter for the presidency. The other serious opponent was eliminated by bring corruption charges against him.
Seedy Ron
Jimmy Neighbour
Robbo
Paul Walsh
Fifa: Franz Beckenbauer case could be decided soon
A Fifa investigation into Germany's World Cup-winning captain and coach Franz Beckenbauerhas been concluded.
The world governing body's adjudication committee will now decide whether to take any action against the 70-year-old, who was one of 22 men to vote on the 2018 and 2022 World Cups.
Beckenbauer was provisionally banned by Fifa for "failing to co-operate" with its inquiry into the bidding process.
Russia and Qatar won the 2010 vote to stage the next two tournaments.
Fifa vice-president and senior Uefa official Angel Maria Villar Llona has also had his case passed to the committee for a verdict from head of adjudication Hans Joachim Eckert.
In a statement, Fifa also said it would "do everything in its power" to complete its separate investigation into outgoing president Sepp Blatter and Uefa chief Michel Platini, within their 90-day suspensions.
Both men are banned, pending further inquiries into a £1.35m payment between them.
Beckenbauer captained West Germany to victory as hosts at the 1974 World Cup, and was coach when they next lifted the trophy in Italy 16 years later.
He then managed at Olympique Marseille and Bayern Munich, where he is now honorary president.
A Fifa investigation into Germany's World Cup-winning captain and coach Franz Beckenbauerhas been concluded.
The world governing body's adjudication committee will now decide whether to take any action against the 70-year-old, who was one of 22 men to vote on the 2018 and 2022 World Cups.
Beckenbauer was provisionally banned by Fifa for "failing to co-operate" with its inquiry into the bidding process.
Russia and Qatar won the 2010 vote to stage the next two tournaments.
Fifa vice-president and senior Uefa official Angel Maria Villar Llona has also had his case passed to the committee for a verdict from head of adjudication Hans Joachim Eckert.
In a statement, Fifa also said it would "do everything in its power" to complete its separate investigation into outgoing president Sepp Blatter and Uefa chief Michel Platini, within their 90-day suspensions.
Both men are banned, pending further inquiries into a £1.35m payment between them.
Beckenbauer captained West Germany to victory as hosts at the 1974 World Cup, and was coach when they next lifted the trophy in Italy 16 years later.
He then managed at Olympique Marseille and Bayern Munich, where he is now honorary president.
Robbo
Paul Walsh
Sepp Blatter has revealed there was an agreement in place for the 2018 World Cup to go to Russia even before the vote took place.
The suspended FIFA president has told Russian news agency TASS that the tournament was always lined up to go to Russia with the 2022 World Cup to be held in the USA – until Michel Platini decided to throw his weight behind Qatar.
Blatter’s comments will spark further controversy over World Cup bidding – England, Spain/Portugal and Belgium/Holland spent tens of millions of pounds on bidding against Russia.
Blatter did not expand on who exactly had “agreed” for Russia to be hosts, but claimed the crisis in FIFA had been prompted by England and the USA being “bad losers” as a result of their World Cup bid failures.
Blatter told TASS: “In 2010 we had a discussion of the World Cup and then we went to a double decision. For the World Cups it was agreed that we go to Russia because it’s never been in Russia, eastern Europe, and for 2022 we go back to America. And so we will have the World Cup in the two biggest political powers.
“And everything was good until the moment when (French president Nicolas) Sarkozy came in a meeting with the crown prince of Qatar, who is now the ruler of Qatar. And at a lunch afterwards with Mr Platini he said it would be good to go to Qatar. And this has changed all pattern.
“There was an election by secret ballot. Four votes from Europe went away from the USA and so the result was 14 to eight. If you put the four votes, it would have been 12 to 10. If the USA was given the World Cup, we would only speak about the wonderful World Cup 2018 in Russia and we would not speak about any problems at FIFA.”
Blatter, who is facing criminal proceedings in relation to a £1.3million payment made to Platini in 2011 and over TV rights deals sold to Jack Warner, said there was no possibility that Russia would lose the World Cup.
He added: “No, you will never lose the World Cup. It has been anchored in FIFA. There will be no change in the World Cup.”
Asked about English criticism, Blatter replied: “Bad losers. In Great Britain they have made this beautiful game, they have introduced fair play. But there was only one vote going for England. They were eliminated in the first round. Nobody wanted to have England.”
Blatter said the FIFA ethics committee decision to provisionally suspend himself and Platini and secretary general Jerome Valcke was “total nonsense”.
He added: “This is not justice. I put these people into the office, where they are now in the ethics committee and they don’t even have the courage to listen to the secretary general, Platini or me. I called them for the principles of the human rights: before to be suspended or excluded from somewhere you have the right to answer and they have denied this. They made a summary investigation and three days later I was suspended.”
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/blatter-reveals-pre-vote-agreement-over-russia-wc
The suspended FIFA president has told Russian news agency TASS that the tournament was always lined up to go to Russia with the 2022 World Cup to be held in the USA – until Michel Platini decided to throw his weight behind Qatar.
Blatter’s comments will spark further controversy over World Cup bidding – England, Spain/Portugal and Belgium/Holland spent tens of millions of pounds on bidding against Russia.
Blatter did not expand on who exactly had “agreed” for Russia to be hosts, but claimed the crisis in FIFA had been prompted by England and the USA being “bad losers” as a result of their World Cup bid failures.
Blatter told TASS: “In 2010 we had a discussion of the World Cup and then we went to a double decision. For the World Cups it was agreed that we go to Russia because it’s never been in Russia, eastern Europe, and for 2022 we go back to America. And so we will have the World Cup in the two biggest political powers.
“And everything was good until the moment when (French president Nicolas) Sarkozy came in a meeting with the crown prince of Qatar, who is now the ruler of Qatar. And at a lunch afterwards with Mr Platini he said it would be good to go to Qatar. And this has changed all pattern.
“There was an election by secret ballot. Four votes from Europe went away from the USA and so the result was 14 to eight. If you put the four votes, it would have been 12 to 10. If the USA was given the World Cup, we would only speak about the wonderful World Cup 2018 in Russia and we would not speak about any problems at FIFA.”
Blatter, who is facing criminal proceedings in relation to a £1.3million payment made to Platini in 2011 and over TV rights deals sold to Jack Warner, said there was no possibility that Russia would lose the World Cup.
He added: “No, you will never lose the World Cup. It has been anchored in FIFA. There will be no change in the World Cup.”
Asked about English criticism, Blatter replied: “Bad losers. In Great Britain they have made this beautiful game, they have introduced fair play. But there was only one vote going for England. They were eliminated in the first round. Nobody wanted to have England.”
Blatter said the FIFA ethics committee decision to provisionally suspend himself and Platini and secretary general Jerome Valcke was “total nonsense”.
He added: “This is not justice. I put these people into the office, where they are now in the ethics committee and they don’t even have the courage to listen to the secretary general, Platini or me. I called them for the principles of the human rights: before to be suspended or excluded from somewhere you have the right to answer and they have denied this. They made a summary investigation and three days later I was suspended.”
http://www.teamtalk.com/news/blatter-reveals-pre-vote-agreement-over-russia-wc
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
It certainly does look like the FBI etc are only now discovering all the fraud because they didn't get their piece (i.e. hosting the 2022).
Blatter is going down and taking every mofo with him lol - especially Platini!
Blatter is going down and taking every mofo with him lol - especially Platini!