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Euro 2016 Qualifying
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Armchair Expert
Vedran Corluka
Delph, Wheelchair and Henderson? We really are mid table also rans these days hey. Rubbish, rubbish team.
Throw in Stones, Welbeck and Phil Jones too.
If I didn't have a bet riding on this I wouldn't bother watching.
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Scotland managed a decent attempt against Germany yesterday with far less talented players on the pitch.
I don't think Hodgson is the right man for the England job. At the world cup, and on this showing, we're managing to get less than the sum of their parts out of the players.
Armchair Expert
Vedran Corluka
Yeah I'm not sure why I bother watching it either. I lived in Vienna for a while and the missus is Austrian (plus I work for an Austrian club) so I'm actually enjoying watching the emergence of a good young Austria side than I am watching these over paid English cloggers embarrassing the nation. Honestly, since when have these players been international quality? Estonia maybe, any western European nation? Don't think so.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
They often do play well against the top sides, but they have lost to some proper pony teams also.
I don't like to sound like a Roy Hodgson apologist, but I really don't know much further he could have taken this England side although I accept the football has been dire, but that's always the case with England and always will be until we teach kids to not lump it forward as quickly as possible. We should just employ loads of Spanish, German, Italian and Dutch coaches rather than English ones.
Armchair Expert
Vedran Corluka
I agree. It is a poor team playing to even less than the sum of its parts.
johnola
Dean Austin
England by far the better side here.
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Shins it into the net?
The goal wasn't made by Welbeck, he just happened to be on the end of the cross. We need the guy delivering the cross far more.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
I agree. I don't rate Welbeck at all. Nowhere near good enough of a finisher to be considered a striker.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
The great saviour.....subbed
ShelfLife
Clive Wilson
I rather like Delph 8-[ Whether he ought to be starting midfielder for the national team is debatable, though it's quite refreshing to see someone like him being given an opportunity in a meaningful game.
ShelfLife
Clive Wilson
Disappointing night for him.......shame.
I was just thinking that more players from the lesser teams should get picked. They're used to 'defend first, play hoofball later' tactics and working their asses off. It's what international football has become, scrappy and boring unless there's a massive gulf between the two sides. Nor are they playing alongside some exceptionally talented foreigners that makes them look better than they are in their club side. Leave the showboating for the likes of Brazil, Germany, Argentina, Spain, Italy and France.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Exactly. Is it really Hodgson's fault that Wheelchair is massively overrated and we don't have anyone better?
thfcsteff
George Hunt
Just happened to be on the end of the cross? No. Timed his run, made the right run, put it away. Not with the shin either. Watch it again mate. How many times have we done that in the last few years?
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Was definitely shinned. Sterling makes that goal.
Welbeck has had opportunities far easier than that to set up fellow England players, and he's ****ed it up on two or three occasions tonight. It's also a pretty standard run for a striker to make, you wouldn't expect the striker to be anywhere else, it's hardly clever movement.