What do you mean by old style contracts? Are there new style contracts?
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EU transfer ruling
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What do you mean by old style contracts? Are there new style contracts?
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
There could be, the same type you and I signed for our current employment.
Then it would be like our current employment. Just clubs would be very unlikely to invest in academies because there would be little benefit.
Can't have it both ways, if you can do that, clubs can fire you without paying out your contract (see our example with Ndombele, if contracts weren't fixed, we would have fired him years ago and saved millions)
There would have to have a reason for dismissal. Asfar as I'm aware he turned up for training. Just wasn't very good or fit.
Performance is a reason in any line of work. This is why this is a slippery slope for players, failure to earn first team spot? put on improvement plan .. I get protections against salary cuts but do they really want the same rules as the rest of us fudges in the corporates world?
Seems this ruling is nothing new. It's just a rehash of the mutu case when he joined juventus after being kicked out by chelsea. Basically the club he joins isn't liable to compensate the other club. It's on the player.
Media just seem to be dramatising to sell the story.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
Yes, it would cut both ways.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
Players have to come from somewhere.
Film studios don't train actors. Maybe internships like lawfirms or something.
Not going to happen though. Transfer fees are here to stay. This (as far as i can tell) was just about the player breaching his contract. But not being able to play for another club because fifas rules said the club that signed him would have to pay the €8.5m compensation he owed. Obviously blocking him from working again.
Muttley
Ben Thatcher
For me, this topic joins up with the news we got 10 months ago.
As a reminder......the European Court of Justice (ECJ) ruled in December 2023 that the Union of European Football Associations (UEFA) and FIFA violated European Union law by preventing the formation of the European Super League (ESL). The ECJ's ruling stated that UEFA and FIFA's rules were unlawful and that they abused their dominant position by restricting competition.
This all comes down to decision rights. What has happened over time is that FIFA and UEFA have stolen decision rights on areas that were not there's to own in the first place. They have over-empowered themselves and now we are seeing cases like these where football stakeholders are using a court of law to strike back at the governance bodies.
Today's news is yet another example of the untouchables at FIFA and UEFA getting another smack in the mouth. I'm all for it, until they strip those organisations bare and just leave them responsible for the 2 or 3 things only that add value to the football community.
As a reminder......the European Court of Justice (ECJ) ruled in December 2023 that the Union of European Football Associations (UEFA) and FIFA violated European Union law by preventing the formation of the European Super League (ESL). The ECJ's ruling stated that UEFA and FIFA's rules were unlawful and that they abused their dominant position by restricting competition.
This all comes down to decision rights. What has happened over time is that FIFA and UEFA have stolen decision rights on areas that were not there's to own in the first place. They have over-empowered themselves and now we are seeing cases like these where football stakeholders are using a court of law to strike back at the governance bodies.
Today's news is yet another example of the untouchables at FIFA and UEFA getting another smack in the mouth. I'm all for it, until they strip those organisations bare and just leave them responsible for the 2 or 3 things only that add value to the football community.
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Grassroots football gets by without contracts, players can come and go as they please, and the clubs still need to run as businesses. If this happens, it will just become the new normal.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
Very good point.
I’m part of a club that breaks even financially every year and develops players that are only committed to one year at a time.
If what happens? This case was about who has to pay compensation club or player. If a contract is broken.
They ruled that the club he joined didn't have to pay the compensation. As it would stop him being able to work. He still has to pay compensation for breaching.
Transfer fees aren't going anywhere.
They might come down though. As the compensation seems to be based on the amortisation. But mutu had a similar ruling when he joined juve. Chelsea wanted compensation from juve. So nothing really new in the verdict. Media just trying to dramatise as usual.