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Eric Dier

Mulletperm said:
Being right footed and playing in the left CB position is what the issue is.
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That bit where Mane closed him down for their second, he was over on the *right* side of the defense, with the ball on his *right* foot. It isn't him being played out of position, it's him being shaky at the back, which happens quite a bit too often for my liking (despite his youth affording him some leeway). Previously, we had Wimmer in good form, so we could keep Dier in midfield when Verts suffered his annual injury. But Poch has lost confidence in him, it seems.
 
I hate to say it but he deserves to be dropped. He's been off form for some time now. Today was just in keeping with his current run of poor form.
 
Rorschach said:
I hate to say it but he deserves to be dropped. He's been off form for some time now. Today was just in keeping with his current run of poor form.
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Problem is with Verts out, Wimmer looking shaky and CCV not yet ready we don't really have decent back-up. Davies showed today he is just not up to it at LB so no point putting him in at CB either.

So maybe put Wanyama in alongside Aldereiweld and start Winks alongside Dembele at DM?
 
Another really bad display by him and overall it hasn't been the best of seasons for him. For me he would help himself ten fold if he stopped letting the ball bounce and stopped trying to look cool on the ball and inviting pressure when he could just be far more simple.

Today he was embarassing at times - be lost every header.
 
Raziel said:
Overeaction, Dier did not have a good game, but he doesn't hide, plays wherever we ask him.

System/tactics exposed him today, while I prefer him in the DM role, he's not a poor player.
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No one's saying he's a poor player but his performances overall this season are at best mixed and certainly below what he would expect of himself. Agree he never hides and there were moments after his brainfart today when he produced some excellent last-ditch tackles that saved us going further behind, so credit to him for that.

But whereas last season at DM he was outstanding throughout, this time round at CB he has been at times shaky and unpredictable. So maybe he would benefit from a break, allow him time to take stock, rediscover his focus and come back all the stronger.
 
I think Dier may have played more games than anyone else this season. Isn't he just about an ever present, even in weakened cup teams. He needs a complete rest to get his Mojo back. He looked tired and leggy to me against Liverpool - so much so that I asked during the game whether he may be ill.

Think we should have gone for an extra centre back in the Jan window, especially if we intend to go three at the back regularly.
 
Pirate55 said:
I think Dier may have played more games than anyone else this season. Isn't he just about an ever present, even in weakened cup teams. He needs a complete rest to get his Mojo back. He looked tired and leggy to me against Liverpool - so much so that I asked during the game whether he may be ill.

Think we should have gone for an extra centre back in the Jan window, especially if we intend to go three at the back regularly.
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I still can't believe we let West Ham get Fonte for £8m. The guy has played so well for Poch before. And he's played with Alderweireld.
 
i doubt that verts would have coped well with that high line and mane charging in. poor call by poch, it didn't suit our boys at all.
 
Robspur12 said:
Neither Dier nor Davies should be blamed for today. We lost because our lack of proper organization. They should not have been isolated against the pacey Liverpool attack.
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I disagree with you. If I was playing Spurs, the CD I would press would be Dier. He has this need to bring the ball down before playing it and he is slow to get rid of it. I used to think it was his confidence but no I don't think so anymore. The second goal was all on him. He is also poor at concentration. He is a brilliant tackler aye but poor focus and dilly dallies on the ball. Wimmer should be allowed to fight for that position. It is unfair to him if Dier starts the next match. Even against Wycombe Dier was dire.
 
afsoc4life said:
I disagree with you. If I was playing Spurs, the CD I would press would be Dier. He has this need to bring the ball down before playing it and he is slow to get rid of it. I used to think it was his confidence but no I don't think so anymore. The second goal was all on him. He is also poor at concentration. He is a brilliant tackler aye but poor focus and dilly dallies on the ball. Wimmer should be allowed to fight for that position. It is unfair to him if Dier starts the next match. Even against Wycombe Dier was dire.
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So was Wimmer, though. In fact, that's why Poch seems to have gone off Wimmer a bit.
 
DubaiSpur said:
So was Wimmer, though. In fact, that's why Poch seems to have gone off Wimmer a bit.
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Wimmer's poor performance is understandable considering his lack of match fitness. He is not getting enough time at Spurs and I dont blame him if he throws a sissy fit and asks to be played or be allowed to leave.
 
afsoc4life said:
I disagree with you. If I was playing Spurs, the CD I would press would be Dier. He has this need to bring the ball down before playing it and he is slow to get rid of it. I used to think it was his confidence but no I don't think so anymore. The second goal was all on him. He is also poor at concentration. He is a brilliant tackler aye but poor focus and dilly dallies on the ball. Wimmer should be allowed to fight for that position. It is unfair to him if Dier starts the next match. Even against Wycombe Dier was dire.
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Good points mate but do you not think that he plays that way because that is how Poch wants us to develop our play? That is bring the ball down and play it rather than hoof it away.

Dier has been poor as a centre back this season but I still think there is an excellent defensive midfielder in there covering Dembele alongside Wanyama.
 
Robspur12 said:
Good points mate but do you not think that he plays that way because that is how Poch wants us to develop our play? That is bring the ball down and play it rather than hoof it away.

Dier has been poor as a centre back this season but I still think there is an excellent defensive midfielder in there covering Dembele alongside Wanyama.
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I agree that he is better as a DM. His decision making as a CB is not top. He would hopefully develop alongside Toby and Jan.
 
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