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[Mrs Vert]

If we stay up it’s no worse than last season, 17th is 17th.

At least last season we had a cup (trying to find a rainbow) but I agree with ya!

 

[Mrs Vert]

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Wouldn't want to hear from them anyway . What they gonna say? Would all be lies anyhow.
" this season has been tough, we plan to do better blah blah blah"

Only thing I want to read from them is their resignation letter

 

[Mrs Vert]

And the owners too? This could be the greatest day

Not gonna get that lucky

 

[thfcsteff]

Raphael Moersen is coming in which will take the football side of Vinais role away from him and then Kehl as DofF so Lange is back to glorified youth scout which he’s actually decent at.

I’d rather they both get sacked tomorrow but they are not gonna be that close to the 1st team anymore.

Agreed.

I am not wholly convinced by Kehl; not been confirmed yet has he?

 

[robp135]

Yeah, I do see how a lot of this season boils down to putting Vinai and Lange in positions they shouldn’t really be in, and how replacing Levy the way they did puts them in that position because it created a vacuum.

Vinai doesn’t know the club, and didn’t have enough football people around him. He gave Arteta patience and thought he could do the same here with Frank. At Arsenal he had better football people around him and here he only had Lange.

Lange, who doesn’t have the experience to be a true Sporting Director. Leading a data driven scouting set up, sure. He seems good at that. But making critical decisions about the strategic direction of the club and the first team…nope. He may well also have been compromised by his prior relationship with Frank and let that get in the way.

What I can’t understand is why no one was going to the players and asking what they thought. Maybe there was the intention to reduce player power in this new structure and that’s why they didn’t. All in all though it lead to disaster.

Vinai and Lange have some culpability and could have made better decisions. But they should never have been in the positions they were put in.

How do we know nobody spoke to the players?

 

[robp135]

Agreed.

I am not wholly convinced by Kehl; not been confirmed yet has he?

Seems like it