• Dear Guest, Please note that adult content is not permitted on this forum. We have had our Google ads disabled at times due to some posts that were found from some time ago. Please do not post adult content and if you see any already on the forum, please report the post so that we can deal with it. Adult content is allowed in the glory hole - you will have to request permission to access it. Thanks, scara

Energy costs

Crawley

Crawley

Board Legend
I know they are last to do it, but E:eek:n announce 8.7% rise for dual energy customers.

How are these kunts allowed to keep increasing at this rate?

I'm with E:eek:n. £122 per month for a 3 bed mid-terrace house. And we are quite careful.

Was just £49 when we moved in in 1999. How are we expected to keep covering the costs of these rises when most of us have not had a wage rise for ages?
 
southstand1882 said:
Makes me chuckle. Inflation is low...honest

We are all being mugged off, but my eyes are open
Click to expand...

We are in stag(hyper)flation.

Some tough times look to be close (a mass of people already in of course), sadly.

With the rumours (or is it official?) about China dropping a mass of $ holdings (with gold in it's stead) at the end of the year, I'd be long gold if I invested like you. Think some gold is a good play anyway in such shaky times.

Edit : Quietly Official Then
 
Last edited:
We are really careful now, especially with heating. lights always get turned off and dior always shut. the heating rarely goes on in the week now. Just wrap up. Its a horrible situation to be honest. I think the Sky will go soon. Thats £60 a month i can easily live without as you can get all the shows on torrent.

Ive got to say i am generally sick of watching the pennies. I dont ask for much, my golf membership is my only luxury but generally living to a nice standard after working my ass off all week is becoming more ad more difficult. Especially if your putting away every month for pension contributions.
 
Eriktheviking said:
We are really careful now, especially with heating. lights always get turned off and dior always shut. the heating rarely goes on in the week now. Just wrap up. Its a horrible situation to be honest. I think the Sky will go soon. Thats £60 a month i can easily live without as you can get all the shows on torrent.

Ive got to say i am generally sick of watching the pennies. I dont ask for much, my golf membership is my only luxury but generally living to a nice standard after working my ass off all week is becoming more ad more difficult. Especially if your putting away every month for pension contributions.
Click to expand...

Like you say you work hard expect a decent life yet watching the pennies just sucks. Maybe benefits is the way to go - get less than what you earn at the moment but wake up whenever you want, do whatever you want and live fairly comfortably without the hassles and stresses of work. Besides by the time you factor in work costs etc you actually earn just the same I bet especially after taxes and NIC and all that malarkey.
 
Crazy prices... I refuse to believe the price hikes are justified.

Here in Oman it is subsidised by the government, and yes they have oil and gas reserves, but.. I buy my gas in a canister for £10. I got the last one in March and it isn't finished yet. Also in that time my water and electricity came to £100, combined. During the summer months my 2 ACs were on non stop.

I used to dread my energy bills in December, those c**ts hitting you just before Christmas and then new prices in January to make it worse.
 
For those of you that can't move to Oman, better money management is probably the answer.

I don't mind energy prices rising, it's quite useful...

I see a lot of people moaning about this sort of thing yet are happy to waste money on TV subscriptions, alcohol, expensive mobile contracts that they don't need, foreign holidays etc (and this isn't aimed at anyone in this thread as I have no idea of your circumstances, its more an observation of when I hear this from people I do know and know its just a case of them unwilling to give up luxury - not that they realise sky and expensive mobiles is luxury items).

The culture of luxury lifestyle from borrowed money has come to and end. Back to basics until you can afford the extras I'm afraid.
 
Crawley said:
I know they are last to do it, but E:eek:n announce 8.7% rise for dual energy customers.

How are these kunts allowed to keep increasing at this rate?

I'm with E:eek:n. £122 per month for a 3 bed mid-terrace house. And we are quite careful.

Was just £49 when we moved in in 1999. How are we expected to keep covering the costs of these rises when most of us have not had a wage rise for ages?
Click to expand...


I had the letter as well today, love all their excuses for the massive rise, doesnt say their greed on their does it ??

8.7% rise only 3 times above inflation
 
Golfball said:
For those of you that can't move to Oman, better money management is probably the answer.

I don't mind energy prices rising, it's quite useful...

I see a lot of people moaning about this sort of thing yet are happy to waste money on TV subscriptions, alcohol, expensive mobile contracts that they don't need, foreign holidays etc (and this isn't aimed at anyone in this thread as I have no idea of your circumstances, its more an observation of when I hear this from people I do know and know its just a case of them unwilling to give up luxury - not that they realise sky and expensive mobiles is luxury items).

The culture of luxury lifestyle from borrowed money has come to and end. Back to basics until you can afford the extras I'm afraid.
Click to expand...

I regret some of my nominations in the end of year awards because you and gifter are both excellent posters. Your post here goes as one of the posts of the year i think.

It is why i am completely turned off on so much of the new technology because the idea of a kindle sounds great but why do they bring out a new one every year. Same with ipods, this year i finally got round to getting an mp3 player fairly cheap and it will hopefully see me out. It is why i stopped buying football shirts years ago when they started bringing new ones out every year.

The time it most struck me was when i was in Virgin a few years ago and stood behind two guys in the que and one says to the other "im saving up for the friends box set, went off it last few series but i have most box sets for t.v. shows and what be sad not to get the friends one" i was listening in and the guy worked in a call centre so cant have been on much wage wise.

People spent to much in the good times and did not save and now they are not prepared for the bad times, fact of the matter is everyone has to readjust there expectations but no one wants to admit that and whoever is the government has an impossibel job in my opinon.
 
Golfball said:
For those of you that can't move to Oman, better money management is probably the answer.

I don't mind energy prices rising, it's quite useful...

I see a lot of people moaning about this sort of thing yet are happy to waste money on TV subscriptions, alcohol, expensive mobile contracts that they don't need, foreign holidays etc (and this isn't aimed at anyone in this thread as I have no idea of your circumstances, its more an observation of when I hear this from people I do know and know its just a case of them unwilling to give up luxury - not that they realise sky and expensive mobiles is luxury items).

The culture of luxury lifestyle from borrowed money has come to and end. Back to basics until you can afford the extras I'm afraid.
Click to expand...


While I don't disagree with most of the points you make there, the big issue about the original post, as many have picked up, is the incredible above inflation price rises these companies seem to be able to hoist on us at will.

Energy, petrol,...........I'm sure i could go on. The essentials of life.

I mean, quoting my original facts, my energy bill has gone from £49 per month to £122, plus the rise on the way. Anyone want to do the maths?
What % increase is that over 13 years?

Sure, the TV subscriptions, mobile phones etc.........all luxuries. Heat and light are not luxuries.
 
I quite agree with the overspending do we want to like in a feudal society? Whats the point in life if you cant enjoy it? if just to put food on the table, keep yourself warm, be able to get to work and cloth yourself you have to graft 50 hours a week, then why bother? As someone said before, honestly i often wonder if a life on the dole and committing crime to get my luxury items or extras is the way forward.

It may be a harsh picture but the fact is you realistically need a household income of roughly 40k ( for two Adults) to be comfortable (and thats pushing it) these days.
 
Crawley said:
While I don't disagree with most of the points you make there, the big issue about the original post, as many have picked up, is the incredible above inflation price rises these companies seem to be able to hoist on us at will.

Energy, petrol,...........I'm sure i could go on. The essentials of life.

I mean, quoting my original facts, my energy bill has gone from £49 per month to £122, plus the rise on the way. Anyone want to do the maths?
What % increase is that over 13 years?

Sure, the TV subscriptions, mobile phones etc.........all luxuries. Heat and light are not luxuries.
Click to expand...

Don't forget the trains...alcohol, fags

We are being royally mugged off

Governments are going to inflate away their debts, whilst your savings become worthless

I'd love to see interest rates hit 15% tomorrow

Then we'll find out how many millions of ****s there are in this country
 
I get the point crawley about the essentials and it is not just energy bills though they have gone up a lot but filling up a tank of petrol now compared to 20 years ago. Wages have not gone up anywhere near as much.

I did my first locksmith job 12 years ago and i get the same now for a call out as i did then infact less because i work through a company now.

Going to tottenham gets even more expensive because of the train fares, yes we have nicer trains now then 20 years ago but so many times i have to sit on a fudging bus part of the journey, i find this very annoying.
 
Crawley said:
While I don't disagree with most of the points you make there, the big issue about the original post, as many have picked up, is the incredible above inflation price rises these companies seem to be able to hoist on us at will.

Energy, petrol,...........I'm sure i could go on. The essentials of life.

I mean, quoting my original facts, my energy bill has gone from £49 per month to £122, plus the rise on the way. Anyone want to do the maths?
What % increase is that over 13 years?

Sure, the TV subscriptions, mobile phones etc.........all luxuries. Heat and light are not luxuries.
Click to expand...

My post was in response to your question about how to keep covering the costs of these rises. The answer for most is a back to basics approach.

I think that is about a 7% a year rise over 13 years. Probably too high because people dont get 7% pay rises every year. I personally dont mind too much on these sort of bills. Big purchases like houses... thats where I see a problem worth complaining about as well paid people cant even get a decent house.
 
southstand1882 said:
Don't forget the trains...alcohol, fags

We are being royally mugged off

Governments are going to inflate away their debts, whilst your savings become worthless

I'd love to see interest rates hit 15% tomorrow

Then we'll find out how many millions of ****s there are in this country
Click to expand...

Buy a house is your solution. Watch your mortgage become nothing.

Inflation is 2.x% at the moment, because they measure it on stupid stuff. For the debt to be properly inflated away dont we all need to start getting massive pay rises and inflation to be a lot higher than 2%.

At the moment they seem to be printing money but inflation is reasonably low and no one is getting pay rises.
 
I got a 500 pound pay rise this year. I laughed at them - its not even 1%. First pay rise in two years. Simply not enough (when is it ever enough) that 500 minus tax wont cover much of the rises that I am expecting like energy costs or travel costs etc
 
markysimmo said:
8.7% rise only 3 times above inflation
Click to expand...
The rate of inflation is immaterial if their rise in prices is based on the true cost of purchase gas and selling it on. However, I'm sceptical of anything the energy companies say, I'm not convinced they're not colluding to fix prices, plus of course when some of the energy companies are saying they pay X to buy a unit of gas or electric they neglect to mention the wholesaler is part of the same group so they are in fact just shunting money around within one organisation. So the left hand is buying from the right hand and then passing on the increased costs to us while the right hand is enjoying a handsome increase in profits.
 
The compunding factor in the energy rises is that they seam/stream right through everything else we have to buy. Today I was in Tesco's and looked up and there must have been a 50-60ft rise in the structure which is just open to the roof, got me thinking about the electrical/heating costs for a building of that size, then extrapolate that out across the country in every field of commerce, plus councils, hospitals etc.

It's massive and will add at least another 1% to everything else.

Gordinho - I'd say they certainly are colluding. The 10's or whatever this decade is called will be looked back on as the 'pant's down' decade I rekon.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back