He is most like Lampard,just a more athletic version....
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Dele Alli
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You just know the same supporters will be out next season if he has another 'poor' start - saying he needs to be sold.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Exactly
If I was to stereotype spurs fans (and it’s stereotype) it would be instantly changeable and easily forgetful...
Say we have a mare at stoke and draw... the noise around that will be huge from my mates. No reference to what happened this weekend where a draw before the game would have been acceptable IMO.
It’s the same with players though. You can see it on here with the people saying rose has suddenly become an awful player. He made some stupid comments which are indefensible and also has had injury problems that have affected his ability to play. Doesn’t make him a worse player though (just possibly a worse person).., but fans have short memories and yet what long term success
To me Dele is Jenas with drive (angry JJ?) go watch the games JJ played against the Scum and you will see Dele.
Lampard was an AM with a poacher's instinct that mastered late runs into box and typically just hit the ball hard and flat (looking for deflection), Dele has a lot more trickery and subtlety to his game, Dele also runs beyond Kane more often than either Lampard/Gerrard/others did.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Angry JJ, I like that 
As I said, Dele has more skill for sure. Though I think you under rate Lampards contribution outside of goals. He was a vital cog in that team, did a lot of un noticed work - very much like Dele.
As I said, Dele has more skill for sure. Though I think you under rate Lampards contribution outside of goals. He was a vital cog in that team, did a lot of un noticed work - very much like Dele.
Lampard played at the tip of a diamond mostly for Chelsea, didn't he? id say he's probably the most comparable player from that table but regardless i don't think the point of it was to compare the players like for like (Scholes for example on there is nothing like Gerrard who in turn wasn't really like Lampard) i think it was just a list showing him with the last 'golden' crop of English midfielders
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Yes, JJ had the talent, but not the drive or clam side (as he even he knows).
That's why I find it funny when Spurs fans don't know who to compare Dele to, the styles are very similar, AM that can beat his man, good athlete, bit of variation and trickery.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Nothing new it that though, they make a habit of doing just that. One of the best English players i have ever seen Bobby Moore was slagged off by the idiots in the press at time because of his style of play.
This for me as well, he had great ability ( and at times he showed it) but for some reason he never did it often enough and i could only say it was down to mentality.
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Forgot to add, with the pass coming over his shoulder. Out of this world.
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
I wonder if he wound up with the gloves too?
DeleHarry
Jose Dominguez
Dele plays a lot further forward than Gerrard or Lampard ever did, more like a second striker
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
A striker who covers his LB all the time, comes deep into midfield all the time, and basically covers one whole side of the field?
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
I think he does every game now.
The lad covers loads of ground and does a real shift just keeping things ticking over all through the field - I think it does him a disservice to say he plays as a second striker.
The lad covers loads of ground and does a real shift just keeping things ticking over all through the field - I think it does him a disservice to say he plays as a second striker.
Angry JJ, I like that
As I said, Dele has more skill for sure. Though I think you under rate Lampards contribution outside of goals. He was a vital cog in that team, did a lot of un noticed work - very much like Dele.
I used to think Lampard was just goals then watched a few Chelsea games and he was loads more, he was running their midfield at times. Like with Dele highlights and reputation makes it very easy to mislabel a player.
look at the Stat center heatmaps http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/matchcentre/tottenham-hotspur-vs-liverpool-22102017/#divHeatmap
there are more instances where his heatmaps are like Eriksens than Sons. He has played as a second striker but his normal position is MF.
there are more instances where his heatmaps are like Eriksens than Sons. He has played as a second striker but his normal position is MF.
Here's some other stats to inject into the discussion, from this season: (I've injected Lampard in there too for rough comparison)
First the number of passes attempted per 90 minutes:
Harry Winks 74.8
Victor Wanyama 71.7
Mousa Dembélé 68.3
Christian Eriksen 62.5
Frank Lampard 55 (roughly, between 2009 and 2012)
Moussa Sissoko 54.4
Erik Lamela 53.7
Dele Alli 37.9
Son Heung-Min 36.6
Harry Kane 19.1
> Suggests that in possession Alli's more of a 'second striker' or very attacking midfielder, like Son.
And combined tackles and interceptions per 90 minutes:
Victor Wanyama 4.4
Mousa Dembélé 3.3
Erik Lamela 3.2
Harry Winks 3.0
Frank Lampard 3 (roughly, betweem 2009 and 2012)
Christian Eriksen 2.2
Moussa Sissoko 2.2
Dele Alli 2.1
Son Heung-Min 1.0
Harry Kane 0.8
> Suggests that defensively he's working harder and/or playing deeper than Son - more like other deeper attacking midfielders Eriksen and Sissoko
First the number of passes attempted per 90 minutes:
Harry Winks 74.8
Victor Wanyama 71.7
Mousa Dembélé 68.3
Christian Eriksen 62.5
Frank Lampard 55 (roughly, between 2009 and 2012)
Moussa Sissoko 54.4
Erik Lamela 53.7
Dele Alli 37.9
Son Heung-Min 36.6
Harry Kane 19.1
> Suggests that in possession Alli's more of a 'second striker' or very attacking midfielder, like Son.
And combined tackles and interceptions per 90 minutes:
Victor Wanyama 4.4
Mousa Dembélé 3.3
Erik Lamela 3.2
Harry Winks 3.0
Frank Lampard 3 (roughly, betweem 2009 and 2012)
Christian Eriksen 2.2
Moussa Sissoko 2.2
Dele Alli 2.1
Son Heung-Min 1.0
Harry Kane 0.8
> Suggests that defensively he's working harder and/or playing deeper than Son - more like other deeper attacking midfielders Eriksen and Sissoko