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Daniel Levy - Former Chairman

Baleforce said:
its unequivocally been better on the pitch, at what other point in our history have we been so consistently near the top of the league and in the European Cup?
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We have been more successful in other eras in terms of silverware. Consistent league finishes are great that alone isn’t success.
 
Jurgen the German said:
You’ve got to actually win things as well. Let’s hope we can build on the trophy we won last season.
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most clubs never win anything, its the top 1% who do, you can't say "not winning trophies" means the chair is doing a bad job

there are 92 pro clubs in England, only 20 of those are even in the PL, there isn't anything the other 72 can win
 
DTA said:
They ain’t painting roundabouts because they are proud of their country… they are painting them to “stop the boats” AKA “get rid of the foreigners” AKA “brown and black people scare me”

But if you are going to do patriotic shows of symbolism the flag should NEVER be on the floor so painting it on a roundabout is actually a disrespect… and that’s before we get in to painting it on dustbins???

Also what’s with the tinkle poor workmanship with the squiggly thin lines? If you want want to demonstrate pride in your country how about first taking pride in your “work”
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I wanted to leave it alone, but I just can't get over how many of the flags are being hung half way down the flag pole either.

Where is the pride and patriotism in that?

You want to fly a flag, fly it correctly.
 
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Baleforce said:
most clubs never win anything, its the top 1% who do, you can't say "not winning trophies" means the chair is doing a bad job

there are 92 pro clubs in England, only 20 of those are even in the PL, there isn't anything the other 72 can win
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We’re in a position because of our history and stature that means we should be winning trophies more regularly than we have done since 2000. Clubs like Crystal Palace and Bournemouth don’t have the same expectations. Clubs even further down the ladder won’t ever win anything.

The other 72 clubs can try and win the League Cup and the FA Cup.
 
Jurgen the German said:
We’re in a position because of our history and stature that means we should be winning trophies more regularly than we have done since 2000. Clubs like Crystal Palace and Bournemouth don’t have the same expectations. Clubs even further down the ladder won’t ever win anything.

The other 72 clubs can try and win the League Cup and the FA Cup.
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why, it was easier for a club of our stature pre 2000, yet we have matched the clubs long term average

what are the chances of a non PL team winning either domestic knock out cup each season, and does their failure to do so mean they are being badly run?
 
Baleforce said:
I wanted to leave it alone, but I just can't get over how many of them are being hung half way down the flag pole either.

Where is the pride and patriotism in that?

You want to fly a flag, fly it correctly.
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I've seen a few in Luton outside houses. It's normal during international footy tournos tbf and nobody gives a brick.

I've got a Palestine flag. Out of solidarity. Not because I think this is Palestine. Ironically St George and Palestine have an affiliation so I feel I'm winning all around.
 
LutonSpurs said:
I've seen a few in Luton outside houses. It's normal during international footy tournos tbf and nobody gives a brick.

I've got a Palestine flag. Out of solidarity. Not because I think this is Palestine. Ironically St George and Palestine have an affiliation so I feel I'm winning all around.
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I'm in gammon central in Essex, there are honestly hundreds of poorly hung flags, and badly defaced roundabouts and zebra crossings, multiple mis-spellings of the word "England" on the crossings, and of course, masked and hooded people outside of hotels.

I guarantee none of these fudgers would fly a Palestine flag, despite their supposed love of St George.
 
Baleforce said:
why, it was easier for a club of our stature pre 2000, yet we have matched the clubs long term average

what are the chances of a non PL team winning either domestic knock out cup each season, and does their failure to do so mean they are being badly run?
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As I said, we’re a bigger club than the majority of the clubs in the pyramid. We’ve underachieved in terms of silverware in the last 20 years. Smaller clubs aren’t expected to win stuff. Nor does it appear to be their aim. Most non-PL clubs want to either consolidate their position in whatever league they are in or climb the ladder and eventually try and get into the PL.
 
Bullet said:
It would be a delicious soap opera if Levy is made chairman or CEO of another Big 6 club.

As I said before, I can see him becoming a bigwig at the Premier League or UEFA or FIFA.
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I think DL is a fair minded fella with ideals and beliefs based around that. So unless he's going to enforce UEFA and FIFA to his way of thinking, I doubt there's a job at either of those organizations that DL would have any interest in.

The regulator for the government... definitely a yes.
 
Jurgen the German said:
As I said, we’re a bigger club than the majority of the clubs in the pyramid. We’ve underachieved in terms of silverware in the last 20 years. Smaller clubs aren’t expected to win stuff. Nor does it appear to be their aim. Most non-PL clubs want to either consolidate their position in whatever league they are in or climb the ladder and eventually try and get into the PL.
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Only if you ignore the seismic changes in the sport. And even then, the average is close. We've only won 18 trophies in 143 years. 2 in 17 is a rounding error difference.

At what point does a club become a not "smaller club", and have their chairs performance graded solely on trophies?
 
Jurgen the German said:
Look this is going round in circles but compared to other Spurs forums, twitter, social media etc I’d say this place is pro ENIC. Not sure how I’m supposed to quantify it really. That’s just my opinion.
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No doubt on that. I’m not criticising at all (just observing), but it’s very clear that this forum is quite an outlier when it comes to views expressed on Daniel Levy.

I’ve listened to a lot of Spurs podcasts over the past 48 hours. I’ve yet to find one which thinks that change wasn’t overdue.

The View From the Lane is, for me, a pretty good barometer of opinion; it’s populated by professional journalists, a couple of whom are Spurs fans, and a few who aren’t.

They produced, for me, a very balanced programme post-Daniel’s sacking. It acknowledged the great things he’s done, but talked about how he’s come to be viewed within the game, for some time now, as ‘The Mourinho of chairmen.’

He arrived into a world of clubs owned by sports company and carpet warehouse owners who also happened to run football clubs; he was the young disruptor who did things differently.

But the football landscape has completely changed during his 25 years at the helm, and he has latterly operated in a landscape peopled by nation state and (actual!) gangster owners - and he has struggled to deal with that (see this summer window, where there is plenty of evidence that he was completely played in the Eze transfer and, possibly, the MGW one too).

He has struggled to adapt. Other chairmen dealing with him used to be wary and fearful - of late, they just thought that he was a pain in the arse that they’d rather avoid dealing with.

The main thing said to me by fans of other clubs that I know over the last few days is, “You must be happy Levy’s gone.” To them, he had become (rightly or wrongly) a symbol of all those times we never quite got over the line. Time will tell whether they are right to suddenly be feeling a little bit more fearful.

Almost all of my Spurs supporting friends and family feel like me; grateful for what he did off the field, but happy to see change and a new approach to things hopefully coming into play - feelings which are very largely echoed on the other Spurs forums that I’ve dipped into over the part couple of days.

I’m not quite sure why this forum is so different in its opinion on him. One of the many quirks that makes this place interesting to me and keeps me coming back!
 
Mikey10 said:
No doubt on that. I’m not criticising at all (just observing), but it’s very clear that this forum is quite an outlier when it comes to views expressed on Daniel Levy.

I’ve listened to a lot of Spurs podcasts over the past 48 hours. I’ve yet to find one which thinks that change wasn’t overdue.

The View From the Lane is, for me, a pretty good barometer of opinion; it’s populated by professional journalists, a couple of whom are Spurs fans, and a few who aren’t.

They produced, for me, a very balanced programme post-Daniel’s sacking. It acknowledged the great things he’s done, but talked about how he’s come to be viewed within the game, for some time now, as ‘The Mourinho of chairmen.’

He arrived into a world of clubs owned by sports company and carpet warehouse owners who also happened to run football clubs; he was the young disruptor who did things differently.

But the football landscape has completely changed during his 25 years at the helm, and he has latterly operated in a landscape peopled by nation state and (actual!) gangster owners - and he has struggled to deal with that (see this summer window, where there is plenty of evidence that he was completely played in the Eze transfer and, possibly, the MGW one too).

He has struggled to adapt. Other chairmen dealing with him used to be wary and fearful - of late, they just thought that he was a pain in the arse that they’d rather avoid dealing with.

The main thing said to me by fans of other clubs that I know over the last few days is, “You must be happy Levy’s gone.” To them, he had become (rightly or wrongly) a symbol of all those times we never quite got over the line. Time will tell whether they are right to suddenly be feeling a little bit more fearful.

Almost all of my Spurs supporting friends and family feel like me; grateful for what he did off the field, but happy to see change and a new approach to things hopefully coming into play - feelings which are very largely echoed on the other Spurs forums that I’ve dipped into over the part couple of days.

I’m not quite sure why this forum is so different in its opinion on him. One of the many quirks that makes this place interesting to me and keeps me coming back!
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Because we are smarter here :p
 
Mikey10 said:
They produced, for me, a very balanced programme post-Daniel’s sacking. It acknowledged the great things he’s done, but talked about how he’s come to be viewed within the game, for some time now, as ‘The Mourinho of chairmen.’
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Eh?....that was just Dan Kilpatrick passing on a comparison that a mate once said to him.
 
Baleforce said:
Only if you ignore the seismic changes in the sport. And even then, the average is close. We've only won 18 trophies in 143 years. 2 in 17 is a rounding error difference.

At what point does a club become a not "smaller club", and have their chairs performance graded solely on trophies?
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Clubs that are in and around the top 6-8 should be looking to win trophies. I don’t think ever said solely trophies were the only criteria, just that they were the main currency of success, certainly for the biggest clubs in the country.
 
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