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Daniel Levy - Chairman

billyiddo said:
Do you think we have been in an indefinite period of moving in the wrong direction for 20 years or something?

IMV the set backs have generally been short lived and are bookended by periods of improvement, that's why patience/leeway/whatever you want to call it, for the owners is there.
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No I don’t. But I think 20+ years is enough and feel it is time for a change.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
But he’s the minority owner. You’d still have Joe Lewis’ family trust owning the lion’s share. And that’s where the lack of additional investment sits, not with Levy.
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Levy has 30% and is chairman so sets financial targets, which has kept Lewis hanging on. In a reverse way Levy could also make THFC spend more on football, be less profitable overall and Lewis would carry a heavier burden into the future.
I would believe in Levy more if we have less ffp headroom.
 
Muttley said:
It has been documented in both Modric and now Lloris autobiographies that it is Levy's stupid games that has procrastinated deals. We probably should have never had Lloris in a Spurs shirt based on the way Levy messed the deal up. He ultimately had to pay the transfer fee anyway after losing the negotiation, he stopped the player from having a pre-season with AVB, and he created a scenario where Aulas had to save the day. Hugo admitted himself that Aulas told him it was completely up to him if he didn't want to head to Spurs. Aulas had schooled Levy and told the player he would happily keep him, implying that he'd find other ways to cover the money he was expecting, and needed.

I personally don't think that there is anything special about Levy's negotiation skills. In fact, guys like Modric and Lloris have been clear that Levy goes back on his word. He breaks promises, which breaks relationships. That is a big no, no in sales.

I think we do have to realise that the pattern of late deals in our club did unfortunately come from the top. It was a choice, and not necessarily to do with other parties or admin processes.

I will state again, in Levy's head he was and is always working in our best interests.
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I think that has changed somewhat at least as our spending power has increased. There probably was a time when he felt he had to try everything to get a deal somewhat cheaper. That no longer seems the case, at least not to the same extent.

I agree that it would have been good if Solanke for example came in earlier, but it wasn't left until deadline day or really late in the window. Our deadline day dealing in general has seemingly lessened somewhat.

That's just my impression, may be wrong. No doubts there have been negatives with that. But I also think there have been positives in that some money has been saved that could then go to other deals.
 
braineclipse said:
I think that has changed somewhat at least as our spending power has increased. There probably was a time when he felt he had to try everything to get a deal somewhat cheaper. That no longer seems the case, at least not to the same extent.

I agree that it would have been good if Solanke for example came in earlier, but it wasn't left until deadline day or really late in the window. Our deadline day dealing in general has seemingly lessened somewhat.

That's just my impression, may be wrong. No doubts there have been negatives with that. But I also think there have been positives in that some money has been saved that could then go to other deals.
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The mad thing is that Levy didn't need to do everything in his power to get cheaper deals. He was penny wise, pound foolish with nobody alongside him explaining to him that bad purchases have a much bigger negative impact on the P&L in the long term. He just kept finding out the hard way. We just needed to buy quality over quantity and use the available budget better.

I do agree that the model has improved though. Is it perhaps the case that we are a much more attractive proposition to players and their agents nowadays. We're moving from the cruiserweight to heavyweight divisions.
 
Muttley said:
The mad thing is that Levy didn't need to do everything in his power to get cheaper deals. He was penny wise, pound foolish with nobody alongside him explaining to him that bad purchases have a much bigger negative impact on the P&L in the long term. He just kept finding out the hard way. We just needed to buy quality over quantity and use the available budget better.

I do agree that the model has improved though. Is it perhaps the case that we are a much more attractive proposition to players and their agents nowadays. We're moving from the cruiserweight to heavyweight divisions.
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What evidence is there that we are a much more attractive proposition nowadays?
 
metalgear said:
Levy has 30% and is chairman so sets financial targets, which has kept Lewis hanging on. In a reverse way Levy could also make THFC spend more on football, be less profitable overall and Lewis would carry a heavier burden into the future.
I would believe in Levy more if we have less ffp headroom.
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What profit do we make?
How do you find that extra spend?
It’s not as if we are t seeming everything we earn now
We don’t make a profit and lose money now (good for tax)
And no money has been taken out of the club despite the constant comment that we’re the cash cow for ENIC
But, that’s not to say they won’t make an obscene profit when they sell
 
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