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They will not listen.
I am listening now
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Daniel Levy - Chairman
- Thread starter Howard Webb
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I am listening now
Yeah ok fair play, but if he is wrong then he should be hung for it. To make such a counter intuitive call your are either right or gone. No flimflam about needing time or things like bad luck or anything, you make a massive call like that, which is countary to the perceived General consensus, then your only option is to be 100% proved correct.
Gazzasrightboot
Pascal Chimbonda
Gazzasrightboot
Pascal Chimbonda
He's happy but would have liked Berahino to make him super happy.
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
Loved that statement. Leaving work today I was starting to think that some of Levy's tactics were beginning to be a bit dated. One of the nice things about the ridiculous amount of money clubs in the EPL have nowadays is that player power has eroded. I always hated the idea that a club would bend over backwards and alter often strategic, long term plans because a player decides he wants to go. Player power is dead and it means clubs don't and won't sell. The old style of brinksmanship, waiting until the deadline draws near because a club will have to sell eventually because they need the money, it's gone. I like that. But I don't think Levy had forseen this entirely.
On the other hand. The reason I loved that statement wasn't necessarily just because of what was said, but because it clearly showed Poch and Levy on the same page. We are a club pulling in one direction, finally after all this years. Alignment between Chairman and Manager. Poch is backing Levy in strong terms on the tactical point around where goals can come from in modern football, and I must say I agree with him. The idea that we need to sign any old striker just to say we have a position filled isn't relevant any more.
There seemed to be a clear plan for the window. Shift the deadwood. Strengthen the defence. Add pace in attack, but don't overspend. Bar Ade, we nearly achieved it. But Poch seems to be actively telling Levy not to invest for the sake of it, because he'd rather leave space open for young players. And that seems to be music to Levy's ears. I think it was actually that Poch didn't want Berahino that much, and would rather the money kept back for a better player when available if we had to pay over the odds for him. The beauty of having a Chairman and Manager aligned is, we will reap the benefit of that. The difference between AVB and Harry demanding Tevez, Moutinho, Hulk etc but getting Levy style signings because he is the ultimate decision maker (leading to the manager throwing toys out of pram) is huge, and the advantage cannot be overstated.
Finally, Poch says he is proud to lead a squad with heart. Let that sink in because I think it is important. We are going to build a great spirit at this club, with young players who will grow together. I actually truly believe too that Levy's sackings of AVB, Harry, Sherwood and Ramos were not strictly around results or league position. I think it was because in each of those men he couldn't strategically align with how they wanted to manage the team. But Poch is his man, and this is a project to get us into the stadium while remaining competitive. That is something you don't cast aside because of poor results, so I think people needn't worry.
Poch is Levy's man, and has his backing because they are aligned. We have a young squad and are building a stadium. We will have topsy turvy times. But we are playing the long game and it seems that finally, after over a decade, we have a coherent strategy in place right across the club to actually make it happen. It isn't about making the top 4 in the odd year, so put it out of your mind for this and enjoy watching a club build itself. We are finally, finally getting there.
On the other hand. The reason I loved that statement wasn't necessarily just because of what was said, but because it clearly showed Poch and Levy on the same page. We are a club pulling in one direction, finally after all this years. Alignment between Chairman and Manager. Poch is backing Levy in strong terms on the tactical point around where goals can come from in modern football, and I must say I agree with him. The idea that we need to sign any old striker just to say we have a position filled isn't relevant any more.
There seemed to be a clear plan for the window. Shift the deadwood. Strengthen the defence. Add pace in attack, but don't overspend. Bar Ade, we nearly achieved it. But Poch seems to be actively telling Levy not to invest for the sake of it, because he'd rather leave space open for young players. And that seems to be music to Levy's ears. I think it was actually that Poch didn't want Berahino that much, and would rather the money kept back for a better player when available if we had to pay over the odds for him. The beauty of having a Chairman and Manager aligned is, we will reap the benefit of that. The difference between AVB and Harry demanding Tevez, Moutinho, Hulk etc but getting Levy style signings because he is the ultimate decision maker (leading to the manager throwing toys out of pram) is huge, and the advantage cannot be overstated.
Finally, Poch says he is proud to lead a squad with heart. Let that sink in because I think it is important. We are going to build a great spirit at this club, with young players who will grow together. I actually truly believe too that Levy's sackings of AVB, Harry, Sherwood and Ramos were not strictly around results or league position. I think it was because in each of those men he couldn't strategically align with how they wanted to manage the team. But Poch is his man, and this is a project to get us into the stadium while remaining competitive. That is something you don't cast aside because of poor results, so I think people needn't worry.
Poch is Levy's man, and has his backing because they are aligned. We have a young squad and are building a stadium. We will have topsy turvy times. But we are playing the long game and it seems that finally, after over a decade, we have a coherent strategy in place right across the club to actually make it happen. It isn't about making the top 4 in the odd year, so put it out of your mind for this and enjoy watching a club build itself. We are finally, finally getting there.
Does not explain the desperation and massively overpaying.
We obviously weren't Man Utd desperate. It's about thinking further ahead than just the next 4 months. Why spend money on a stop gap when you can give that playing time (however much or little it may be) on our young players instead?
milo
Jack L. Jones
The general consensus amongst fans or managers? I think Poch's view is quite common amongst his peers.
Also, why should a manager be given less time because you disagree or do not understand a decision? If we had signed a six foot three hulk of a striker who turned out to be a turkey, I think that would be worse and show Poch in a worse light than if the decision he made this summer does not pay off.
Gazzasrightboot
Pascal Chimbonda
Love this post.
Spurs twtter guy, is that you?
BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
If we were that desperate we would have paid the money. I think we have it, and frankly Levy is not the judge of the quality of a player and how much they are worth. That is Mitchell and Poch's job. How else do we think Levy decides how much to pay? He's going to ask the coach how vital the player is, and he's going to ask the stats man what his performance is like relative to the market. He's going to ask the coach how desperate he is to get this particular player. If the desperation isn't that high, I think we pay what we think is fair or nothing at all.
Have to say .. really polite fudge you to WBA
Daniel added, “We have never, as a Club, spoken about another team’s players and I am not about to do so now. However, I do want to make a few general points regarding transfers.
“Firstly, there is hardly a transfer concluded across Europe which doesn’t include staged payments. This is particularly so when significant amounts such as £20m-£30m are involved - players don’t come cheaply these days.
“Secondly, we do not make anything personal. None of the proposals, discussions or negotiations we undertake involve any personal elements or ego - everything we do is in the interest of what is best for our Club.
“Thirdly, we never make anything public, particularly in the best interests of the players involved. Making aspects such as transfer requests public is wholly disrespectful to a player.
Daniel added, “We have never, as a Club, spoken about another team’s players and I am not about to do so now. However, I do want to make a few general points regarding transfers.
“Firstly, there is hardly a transfer concluded across Europe which doesn’t include staged payments. This is particularly so when significant amounts such as £20m-£30m are involved - players don’t come cheaply these days.
“Secondly, we do not make anything personal. None of the proposals, discussions or negotiations we undertake involve any personal elements or ego - everything we do is in the interest of what is best for our Club.
“Thirdly, we never make anything public, particularly in the best interests of the players involved. Making aspects such as transfer requests public is wholly disrespectful to a player.
Gazzasrightboot
Pascal Chimbonda
We weren't desperate and we didn't overpay. If we were desperate, we would have overspent.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
sounded to me like they were holding each other's dingdongs
How have we gone from playing in the champion's league to being happy with two transitional seasons in a row in a matter of few years?
Or three in a row, if hugo, eriksen and kane leaves next summer...
I assume by us being that desperate you mean this forum? Because all I can see is Levy having bid market value for someone of Berahinos talent and age, and not being held to ransom. He would have been a nice to have, but at the end of the day he would have mainly being operating in one of the wide positions behind Kane with the occasional appearance up front and when Kane is injured or rotated. Kane is the main man and he would have been utilised in the same way N'Jie and Son are going to be....
The fact that WBA was asking more for their player that Cheat$ki paid for Pedro says it all in my opinion.
Read the statement again, besides the PR points and the rebuff to WBA, I get two things
- We (Levy) still puts fiscal responsibility as a priority (no surprise)
- Pooch seems (and I mentioned this earlier) super picky about exactly the player he wants, and rather do without than a make do (Look at Wenger at the Scum, think they wanted 3 specific players this summer, they got one, didn't buy anyone else).
ONE season in the CL. It's not really transitional, we're trying to build solid foundations this time. The nature of the transfer windows makes the process seem slower than it could be if we were able to make tweaks when necessary.