glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
Yes he knew what the limitations were when he took the job, he exceeded those expectations and was then asked to exceed them again and still have one hand tied behind his back.
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Daniel Levy - Chairman
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Yes he knew what the limitations were when he took the job, he exceeded those expectations and was then asked to exceed them again and still have one hand tied behind his back.
Thank fudge Levy opened up the purse strings in order for Mourinho to get us playing again, right?
Baleforce
Les Bennett
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
Saudi Sportswashing Machine let both Liverpool and Spurs speak to Wijnaldum. The player met with both Poch and Klopp.
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
It was a bold and good (so far) move by Levy to do so. Fingers crossed he backs his manager in January (if possible) and more critically in the Summer.
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
Although looking at that graph, it was under Levy's stewardship that Arsenal opened up such a huge financial gap between us and them (though I do appreciate here that this period coincided with the Champions League riches). I think the way that Levy has allowed the club to grow organically has been superb but I can't help but think that with some early owner investment we could've been receiving those CL riches more quickly and got to where we are now (and indeed far beyond) far more quickly.
I saw a table that showed owner investment into premier league clubs. Only Arsenal, Burnley, Middlesboro and Swansea were below Spurs in this respect.... With WBA's owner putting in 50% more, Palace's owners putting in twice as much as ours, Watford's over 3 times the amount, Southampton's over 4 times, Bournemouth and Hull over 5 times more than our owners, West Ham's about 7 times, Stoke and Everton 8 times, Sunderland's owners about 13 times the amount and the owners of Leicester, Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea and Emirates Marketing Project making anywhere between 15 and 90 times the personal investment that our owners have made.
Mr Levy and Mr Lewis have increased their net worth by a huge amount through owning Spurs. Levy can be proud that he has managed to achieve that via very good management. However they are quite unique in terms of club ownership in terms of not investing their own money in an attempt to improve the standing of the club.
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
It may indeed end up being for the best (although I don't think Levy was statsbombing Winks and Wijnaldum here as he did sanction the transfer fee and presumably we would've got the player if we weren't up against Liverpool offering 30% more wages than us). Something we do have to accept though is that we are now in a place where the competition for the players that we want is likely to be the other clubs inside the top 15 in Europe for revenue. Our choice is either to pay the money (as we seemed to do for Ndombele) or accept that it is unlikely that we will be able to properly compete for trophies going forward.And Levy was correct to say "no".
Winks - potential = Wijnaldum.
MKSpur
Christian Ziege
Maybe not quite the same thing you saw but the story in the same.
you can see by how much clubs have been doped, I’d imagine over a shorter period United would be even lower.
Whilst I tend to agree that there have been times when an injection of cash may have paid for itself with the impact on the playing side (especially at times of strength) the one positive about our model is we shouldn’t suffer if a new owner came in as we are self sustaining. Unless we were seen as a meal ticket a la the Glazers. I read somewhere they have taken as much out of United as City have had put in.
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
Like on Wednesday at old Trafford, yeah brilliant.
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
Basing your opinion on a clear outlier is not the way to convince people to take you seriously.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Where did the Liverpool numbers come from as their investment was debt pay off and acquiring the club. That’s about it as far as I’ve read and their fans are very proud of that
Uniteds owners haven’t put a penny in and mortgaged the club again I’ll question that as it’s pretty common knowledge
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
It's not been an outlier for this squad.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Exactly right about the glazers so how have they invested???
Where has that data come from as they have literally taken taken taken
Hootnow
Jermaine Jenas
At long last
Wait a minute....from the way some people talk on here, you'd think we were at the level of Southend United when Levy and Lewis first came in, as opposed to one of the top 5 most successful clubs in the UK who financially were not that far off some of the other clubs milking that early PL/CL money.....
Hootnow
Jermaine Jenas
Strongly disagree.
While I guess it is technically true, they would also be within their rights in that case to sell the entire playing squad, sell the stadium and the land surrounding it, close down the club and pocket all the money.
It is after all...their money right?
My point is that they're not taking personal risks with the stadium, have not pumped their own money ala Abrahmovich etc. The club will be paying for it now and will likely be paying for it long after they (and probably many of us) are long gone too.
mudshark
Chris Armstrong
We did, but it looks like it was too little, too late for Poch.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Yeah the form from the turn of the year carried on
IMO age would have got the same points on the board we have now too with the games we had coming up but we may not have got the amount of goals
That’s football though. You have to change and move with the times and it’s clear a refresh was needed somewhere
Of course they're taking personal risks. Every single (realisable) penny of value in the club belongs to them. Every day they hold onto the club they are risking (against a hopeful increase in value) that value dwindling away into nothing.
And they absolutely do have the right to asset strip - as all owners of all businesses do. If there were more value in doing that than running a going concern then they absolutely should consider it.