Coronavirus

[SteveAWOL]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1481302390250876930

 

[Lilbaz]

Not sure if funny. But might make anti vaxxers think.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/lifestyle/health/rare-covid-symptom-affects-penis-25927765

 

[Craig_J]

I feel like the vaccines aren't at all what they're made out to be.

90% of people have had one dose
83% have had two doses
62% have had a booster

Covid is still at the highest rate it has ever been and more deaths than ever.

Maybe you could argue that's just because of Omicron. Either way the cases, deaths and hospitalisations were at a pretty conistent level throughout this entire time anyway.

If we ever get to the point where 100% have vaccinated, we'll still be no better off then we were before. Especially once more variants emerge.

Hope all those who blame the unvaxxed for the conitnued pandemic can now realise that it's made no difference and never will.

 

[AuroRaman]

I feel like the vaccines aren't at all what they're made out to be.

90% of people have had one dose
83% have had two doses
62% have had a booster

Covid is still at the highest rate it has ever been and more deaths than ever.

Maybe you could argue that's just because of Omicron. Either way the cases, deaths and hospitalisations were at a pretty conistent level throughout this entire time anyway.

If we ever get to the point where 100% have vaccinated, we'll still be no better off then we were before. Especially once more variants emerge.

Imagine the numbers without the vaccines. That’s why they work.

 

[monkeybarry]

Imagine the numbers without the vaccines. That’s why they work.

Or imagine the alternative for reducing spread - perpetual lockdown

 

[Lemonade Money]

I feel like the vaccines aren't at all what they're made out to be.

90% of people have had one dose
83% have had two doses
62% have had a booster

Covid is still at the highest rate it has ever been and more deaths than ever.

Maybe you could argue that's just because of Omicron. Either way the cases, deaths and hospitalisations were at a pretty conistent level throughout this entire time anyway.

If we ever get to the point where 100% have vaccinated, we'll still be no better off then we were before. Especially once more variants emerge.

Hope all those who blame the unvaxxed for the conitnued pandemic can now realise that it's made no difference and never will.

We've got brakes on cars, and there are still deaths on the road!

 

[johnola]

I feel like the vaccines aren't at all what they're made out to be.

90% of people have had one dose
83% have had two doses
62% have had a booster

Covid is still at the highest rate it has ever been and more deaths than ever.

Maybe you could argue that's just because of Omicron. Either way the cases, deaths and hospitalisations were at a pretty conistent level throughout this entire time anyway.

If we ever get to the point where 100% have vaccinated, we'll still be no better off then we were before. Especially once more variants emerge.

Hope all those who blame the unvaxxed for the conitnued pandemic can now realise that it's made no difference and never will.

Not at all. I will always see the unvaccinated as selfish and socially reckless. The only possible explanation for that approach is that they might achieve some slither of advantage in life by spreading death and disease to those less robust than themselves.

 

[markysimmo]

 

[Lilbaz]

View attachment 13496

The main thing i don't like about that graphic, is deaths looks horrendous.

But if you look at them over time and by actual date they died, it gives more context.

 

[glasgowspur]

The main thing i don't like about that graphic, is deaths looks horrendous.

But if you look at them over time and by specimen date, it gives more context.View attachment 13497

Deaths in January are always odd, some are carried over from the end of December and the Christmas period because of the bank holidays.

 

[Lilbaz]

Deaths in January are always odd, some are carried over from the end of December and the Christmas period because of the bank holidays.

Agree. Also incidental deaths are another thing aswell.

 

[Mikey10]

The main thing i don't like about that graphic, is deaths looks horrendous.

But if you look at them over time and by actual date they died, it gives more context.View attachment 13497

That’ll be a comfort to the families.

 

[Lilbaz]

That’ll be a comfort to the families.

Hate to break it to you, but we're all going to die. But first we must live.

 

[Gutter Boy]

Agree. Also incidental deaths are another thing aswell.

That must be pretty big. If the criteria is having had Covid in the previous month. And about 1/4 of the population have had Covid in the last month. That's a lot of routine/unrelated deaths that would be counted in with the Covid stats.

 

[Lilbaz]

That must be pretty big. If the criteria is having had Covid in the previous month. And about 1/4 of the population have had Covid in the last month. That's a lot of routine/unrelated deaths that would be counted in with the Covid stats.

Deaths have always been a dodgy one. Opens up a lot of conspiracy.

Excess deaths are more a measure. But also have to be spread out over the year.

We won't know the true cost of the pandemic for a while.

 

[thfcsteff]

I feel like the vaccines aren't at all what they're made out to be.

90% of people have had one dose
83% have had two doses
62% have had a booster

Covid is still at the highest rate it has ever been and more deaths than ever.

Maybe you could argue that's just because of Omicron. Either way the cases, deaths and hospitalisations were at a pretty conistent level throughout this entire time anyway.

If we ever get to the point where 100% have vaccinated, we'll still be no better off then we were before. Especially once more variants emerge.

Hope all those who blame the unvaxxed for the conitnued pandemic can now realise that it's made no difference and never will.

I think it is pretty clear the vaccines have made the difference between hundreds of thousands more people dying and choking up ICUs versus getting covid and seeing it through as a cold. Pretty compelling IMO. Your 'more deaths than ever' comment needs some context; I don't think it stands up to even casual scrutiny.

 

[Lilbaz]

I feel like the vaccines aren't at all what they're made out to be.

90% of people have had one dose
83% have had two doses
62% have had a booster

Covid is still at the highest rate it has ever been and more deaths than ever.

Maybe you could argue that's just because of Omicron. Either way the cases, deaths and hospitalisations were at a pretty conistent level throughout this entire time anyway.

If we ever get to the point where 100% have vaccinated, we'll still be no better off then we were before. Especially once more variants emerge.

Hope all those who blame the unvaxxed for the conitnued pandemic can now realise that it's made no difference and never will.

Pretty easy to see. Look at cases v deaths. Yes omicron is milder so the last month hasn't caused as much damage ratio wise. We had the vulnerable vaccinated by march.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

 

[glasgowspur]

Deaths have always been a dodgy one. Opens up a lot of conspiracy.

Excess deaths are more a measure. But also have to be spread out over the year.

We won't know the true cost of the pandemic for a while.

Deaths are a total red herring.
Not just for covid but in general.

 

[Lilbaz]

Deaths are a total red herring.
Not just for covid but in general.

How'd you mean?

England it has never been about deaths as such. Just overwhelming the health service. Which would escalate deaths far mor than the virus.

 

[Grays_1890]

Not at all. I will always see the unvaccinated as selfish and socially reckless. The only possible explanation for that approach is that they might achieve some slither of advantage in life by spreading death and disease to those less robust than themselves.

So as triple vaxxed you are protected against the virus but not the unvaccinated? Ok then