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Contingency planning : When Ange is sacked, who should replace him?

Who do you want as the next Tottenham Hotspur manager?

  • Andoni Iraola

    Votes: 12 18.8%
  • Marco Silva

    Votes: 8 12.5%
  • Thomas Frank

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Kieran McKenna

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Mauricio Pochettino

    Votes: 32 50.0%
  • Edin Tersic

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • A.N. Other

    Votes: 9 14.1%

  • Total voters
    64
Yep, Ange has divided the fans. Some genuinely believe that Ange was right to put his stake in the ground about his tactical system and drive everything around it. Others like me wanted him to intelligently plot a path towards his go-to system, not reverse engineer from it. I didn't fully trust it from the time I saw us batter West Ham in preseason and lose the game. There were some immediate red flags from me how easy we were undone. Same as his first 10 competitive games in charge. I would have been more patient if I saw some pragmatism and some acknowledgment from Ange that he new to this league and needed to adjust.

I think it takes a more skilful manager that looks at all the resources he has, makes the assessment that his system cannot work just quite yet and then plots a path. A manager that make the compromises from day 1, but incrementally gets to his outcome in an iterative fashion. It's like anything, you course correct on the journey and end up with something better than your plan A anyway. Just ask Pep or Klopp. There are many different ways to play front foot, entertaining football.

It was way too easy to be Ange especially when you're good with words and can sell the vision. You'll only get away with that for so long though, as he's now finding out. When the P45 finally comes, I hope Ange reflects. If he does, and decides to change, I still think he can make a great PL coach. There's a lot to like about him.

Genuinely...have you not been watching lately??? Do you remember Brenford away just last month? Are you telling me that's the same style that we've seen in every other match? Everton away where he tried something different and massively failed? Emirates Marketing Project away where we did them on the counter attack and won 4-0? Emirates Marketing Project at home last season where he drastically changed the formation?

It sounds to me like you watched literally the first game in pre-season, made up your mind, listened to the "we never change" comments and Jamie Redknapp/Gary Neville punditry and have since ignored all of the evidence in front of you that show...no, we absolutely do not play like that every week.

The philosophy remains the same: try to win the ball up the pitch, overload teams, take risks. But the way the team does that from week to week absolutely varies and that people cannot see it by now absolutely baffles me.

Quite clearly it hasn't worked properly. But not working != not changing.
 
No one should ever sack their manager because Fergie turned around a slow start nearly 40 years ago

It amazes me who often people actively go out of their way to misconstrue someone's point.

Like those people who claimed comparisons to Klopp and Arteta (in terms of sticking out the rough patches) were some kind of guarantee of success.
 
Gross was managing in 1997, when teams were still going out on the tinkle regularly, having fry ups before games, the money and the quality of players throughout the league no where near what it is today. It's a totally different game, and it makes the comparisons to Ange seem desperate to paint him with the same "clueless foreigner" brush.

"Clueless foreigner"? Are people advocating an englishman take over? Is southgate a poplular choice?

Or is xenophobia your only go to defence? Your arguments are racist therefore invalid.

How tiresome.
 
It amazes me who often people actively go out of their way to misconstrue someone's point.

Like those people who claimed comparisons to Klopp and Arteta (in terms of sticking out the rough patches) were some kind of guarantee of success.

Liverpool wouldn't have gotten klopp if they didn't sack rogers. Arteta won a trophy in his first year so gained some leeway. Also never looked like finishing in the bottom half of the league.
 
Gross was managing in 1997, when teams were still going out on the tinkle regularly, having fry ups before games, the money and the quality of players throughout the league no where near what it is today. It's a totally different game, and it makes the comparisons to Ange seem desperate to paint him with the same "clueless foreigner" brush.
There is always going to be inherent issues when comparing different eras.
However in term of their competency in the job, it’s not a stretch to see that Postecoglu reign is comparable to someone like Gross, if not even worse given the spending, personnel and state of the club under his reign
 
There is always going to be inherent issues when comparing different eras.
However in term of their competency in the job, it’s not a stretch to see that Postecoglu reign is comparable to someone like Gross, if not even worse given the spending, personnel and state of the club under his reign

@SteveAWOL posted in the other thread. The last 38 games gross got 44 points. The same as anges last 38 games.

Gross is a foreigner to @tommysvr though. Ange isn't.
 
There is always going to be inherent issues when comparing different eras.
However in term of their competency in the job, it’s not a stretch to see that Postecoglu reign is comparable to someone like Gross, if not even worse given the spending, personnel and state of the club under his reign

You think the club is worse off than it was in 1997?? Jesus.
 
Gross was managing in 1997, when teams were still going out on the tinkle regularly, having fry ups before games, the money and the quality of players throughout the league no where near what it is today. It's a totally different game, and it makes the comparisons to Ange seem desperate to paint him with the same "clueless foreigner" brush.
It isny desperate. It's not a direct like-for-like comparison, it's basically the last time Spurs were this bad, which says it all.
 
It amazes me who often people actively go out of their way to misconstrue someone's point.

Yesterday you were purposefully misconstruing criticism of Ange in order to take offense, today above you're doing the same thing. And you're talking about others doing so 😂
 
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Wasn't hot enough to wear flip flops, hence the jackets (wear socks with trainers unless you want them to stink). Tbh i'd wear short/ankle socks. He's an ex footballer though used to wearing long socks and shorts. Guessing reading glasses and sun glasses.
ah mate I wondered why my trainers stink. I rarely wear socks, only for work in a suit, and/or if I have to go to soft play (although tactically I "forget" to wear socks so I dont have to go on the soft play). I just dont like the feel of socks and love being barefeet, as they make my feet sweat (another reason, surgically). All of my Huaraches must hum...

Cool story
 
Yesterday you were purposefully misconstruing criticism of Ange in order to take offense, today above you're doing the same thing. And you're talking about others doing so 😂

Do you geninely believe anyone comes to this forum with that mindset? I don't. Perhaps it'd be a little kinder if people would take a second to clarify their critcisms if they keep hitting a raw nerve?
 
I do actually mate, that's why you see debate being steered towards accusations of agendas/personal dislike/racism and xenophobia - anything to try and diminish the opinion of those criticising him.

Funnily, I think some of Ange's most strident critics take personal offence at anyone who dares to suggest he might've done some good things during his time here. Strange times on GG and in the world generally.
Given that I don't believe anyone believes he will be here beyond the start of pre-season for the 2025/26 season, I wish it could all be less fractious. Still, as Billy Bob Thornton said in Bad Santa, "Wish in one hand..."
 
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