Contingency planning : When Ange is sacked, who should replace him?

[Raziel]

I hate assumptions these days, but if I was going to have a couple, it'd be in the old 'we're going to go in another direction with this pool of players' model. The one good thing is that these players are, for the most part, modifiable to a slightly more controlled style of play.

You might be right re direction specifically

- Not sure if it's just me, but the noise re Iriola seems to have cooled just a little (intensity model too close to Ange?)

Re the players, I think we have a team that can play most systems, from 3 atb to 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, have fairly flexible FB's and a few utility type players, so not worried there.

 

[thfcsteff]

You might be right re direction specifically

- Not sure if it's just me, but the noise re Iriola seems to have cooled just a little (intensity model too close to Ange?)

Re the players, I think we have a team that can play most systems, from 3 atb to 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, have fairly flexible FB's and a few utility type players, so not worried there.

Who knows mate? Glad re:Iraola as I don't think it would work!!

 

[Robspur12]

Who knows mate? Glad re:Iraola as I don't think it would work!!

I know we disagree on this Steff, but did you see Bournemouth grind out a win against an in form Foolham side yesterday? I thought it was impressive given that Bournemouth have been on a poor run recently. Not some thing I've seen us do at all this season. Plus Bournemouth have secured results against all the teams above them except Liverpool this season. That's why I think comparisons between Iraola and Ange are wide of the mark. The former is more pragmatic, you can see him organizing and cajoling his players throughout the game from the sidelines rather than standing shaking his head. It's worth remembering that Bournemouth have a small squad with not many rotation options especially compared to the teams around them . A dip in form was very likely but, I can't remember them previously being a team that competed for European football .

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I know we disagree on this Steff, but did you see Bournemouth grind out a win against an in form Foolham side yesterday? I thought it was impressive given that Bournemouth have been on a poor run recently. Not some thing I've seen us do at all this season. Plus Bournemouth have secured results against all the teams above them except Liverpool this season. That's why I think comparisons between Iraola and Ange are wide of the mark. The former is more pragmatic, you can see him organizing and cajoling his players throughout the game from the sidelines rather than standing shaking his head. It's worth remembering that Bournemouth have a small squad with not many rotation options especially compared to the teams around them . A dip in form was very likely but, I can't remember them previously being a team that competed for European football .

We did just that vs Brentford by the way

 

[Mikey10]

A few places reporting this in the last hour or so.

Iraola ready to rule out Tottenham move and stay at Bournemouth

Spurs have made Iraola their top manager target if Ange Postecoglou leaves at the end of the season

www.standard.co.uk

 

[Lilbaz]

A few places reporting this in the last hour or so.

Iraola ready to rule out Tottenham move and stay at Bournemouth

Spurs have made Iraola their top manager target if Ange Postecoglou leaves at the end of the season

www.standard.co.uk

Which is meaningless. We might not even be considering. We might and he just wants more, power, money whatever.

 

[Mikey10]

Which is meaningless. We might not even be considering. We might and he just wants more, power, money whatever.

And it might be true. Who knows?

At least there are increasing rumblings that suggest the current nightmare appointment will soon be over.

 

[Finney Is Back]

Fans demanded levy step back from football decisions.
Seems he did.

Still want new owners. The whole mentality and perception of the club need to change.

Some fans need to change their mentality aswell though. If it's raining it's not levy tinkling on you.

I'll be happy when Levy stops drawing a salary from THFC. Now we've finally brought in a CEO worth his salt that could (should?) actually happen.

 

[Finney Is Back]

Yes, I don't quite get the hate for Levy over Ange, he's taking guidance from Munn, the question is if Levy will trust him again when he's got it so wrong

How on earth does a club as big as Tottenham Hotspur appoint somebody like Munn in such a key job in the first place though?

 

[Finney Is Back]

lol - you need to work on your narratives at work then.

You gotta admire Ange for saying things like taking the team from 8th to 5th when we're languishing in 15th. Then following it up a week or so later with the logical argument that having one bad season every 3 or 4 seasons should be acceptable, knowing he's only in his second season.

I actually think our ex Mayor of London and UK Prime Minister would be proud of some of Ange's word smithing.

He should know that having one bad season even once in every 6 years isn't acceptable at THFC according to our head honcho.

 

[Finney Is Back]

I know we disagree on this Steff, but did you see Bournemouth grind out a win against an in form Foolham side yesterday? I thought it was impressive given that Bournemouth have been on a poor run recently. Not some thing I've seen us do at all this season. Plus Bournemouth have secured results against all the teams above them except Liverpool this season. That's why I think comparisons between Iraola and Ange are wide of the mark. The former is more pragmatic, you can see him organizing and cajoling his players throughout the game from the sidelines rather than standing shaking his head. It's worth remembering that Bournemouth have a small squad with not many rotation options especially compared to the teams around them . A dip in form was very likely but, I can't remember them previously being a team that competed for European football .

I think Iraola would be fine in a season that we have no European football (just as Ange was). I think we'd see the same struggles we've had this season if having to cope with two games a week. Though I do think Iraola is a little bit more pragmatic than Postecoglou in terms of style of play.

 

[Robspur12]

We did just that vs Brentford by the way

We still gave up some very good chances against Brentford though. Wissa missed some big chances from what I recall. It was a better performance defensively. But he's not been able to do that elsewhere though.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

We still gave up some very good chances against Brentford though. Wissa missed some big chances from what I recall. It was a better performance defensively. But he's not been able to do that elsewhere though.

Yeah not arguing it’s a weakness but i was a huge MAreola advocate and I’ve gone off him in a big way the more I’ve seen off them

 

[parklane1]

Stop being so far right/left. There should be balance. But certainly left is accumulating a lot of mess for bad form and decisions made.

Yes boss

 

[glorygloryeze]

@Raziel

Iraola ready to rule out Tottenham move and stay at Bournemouth

Spurs have made Iraola their top manager target if Ange Postecoglou leaves at the end of the season

www.standard.co.uk

 

[Raziel]

@Raziel

Iraola ready to rule out Tottenham move and stay at Bournemouth

Spurs have made Iraola their top manager target if Ange Postecoglou leaves at the end of the season

www.standard.co.uk

Yep, bit of tea leaf reading but after while there are patterns ..

 

[Legohamster]

@Raziel

Iraola ready to rule out Tottenham move and stay at Bournemouth

Spurs have made Iraola their top manager target if Ange Postecoglou leaves at the end of the season

www.standard.co.uk

I think we have already lined up/sorted the new man so you will see stories like this from those linked.

 

[thfcsteff]

I know we disagree on this Steff, but did you see Bournemouth grind out a win against an in form Foolham side yesterday? I thought it was impressive given that Bournemouth have been on a poor run recently. Not some thing I've seen us do at all this season. Plus Bournemouth have secured results against all the teams above them except Liverpool this season. That's why I think comparisons between Iraola and Ange are wide of the mark. The former is more pragmatic, you can see him organizing and cajoling his players throughout the game from the sidelines rather than standing shaking his head. It's worth remembering that Bournemouth have a small squad with not many rotation options especially compared to the teams around them . A dip in form was very likely but, I can't remember them previously being a team that competed for European football .

Mate...his level of ability is not even in discussion for me. He is exactly the type of manager we chew up and spit out. Bournemouth is one thing. We are a whole other level, and I'm not necessarily driving the 'bigger club' thing, I mean in terms of expectation vs support vs model vs fan expectations. IMO anyway...

 

[billyiddo]

Mate...his level of ability is not even in discussion for me. He is exactly the type of manager we chew up and spit out. Bournemouth is one thing. We are a whole other level, and I'm not necessarily driving the 'bigger club' thing, I mean in terms of expectation vs support vs model vs fan expectations. IMO anyway...

It has generally been managers who have shown promise at lower level clubs who have 'succeeded' here - Poch, Redknapp, Jol - whereas it is the managers with track records at dominant clubs who have floundered

 

[thfcsteff]

It has generally been managers who have shown promise at lower level clubs who have 'succeeded' here - Poch, Redknapp, Jol - whereas it is the managers with track records at dominant clubs who have floundered

Of the ones you list, we shafted Jol (who might've taken us as far as he could've anyway), Redknapp was a short-term appointment who ended up doing so well we didn't know whether to back him or not and it ended up going to the Deep South (several reasons), and Poch? Yes. Poch is the outlier, but hey, we fudged him in the end didn't we? And in the middle too. We ground him down.

Let's face it. We do not allow any manager to really do their jobs fully, whether 'promising' ones or giants. The reason I hold a considerable amount of dislike for Mourinho and Conte is because they knew what they'd need, they knew what we don't do, yet they both still took the job and blamed others. There's an argument for saying they had enough confidence that they thought they could change Levy, however it doesn't weather too well for me personally.