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Circus ManUnitus - Nobody's At The Wheel

K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
While they appear to be spiralling out of control with their new stewardship and shiny sexy new manager I wonder if our fans begin to think getting rid of our evil owners and arrogant naive manager might not bring the golden age they deserve.
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It seems their new manager is as naive and stubborn as ours by trying to play a system that his players aren't capable of.
 
Jordinho said:
It seems their new manager is as naive and stubborn as ours by trying to play a system that his players aren't capable of.
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He seems to me to be a boy doing a man’s job. Out of his depth in what is, admittedly, a very difficult job.

Heard his interview tonight…if I was a United fan, I’d be very, very worried.
 
and the pseudo owner is taking every penny he can out of peoples pockets so he decent have to spend his on the players
They need to do it to buy anyone because of their PSR
 
DeanoAustin said:
He seems to me to be a boy doing a man’s job. Out of his depth in what is, admittedly, a very difficult job.

Heard his interview tonight…if I was a United fan, I’d be very, very worried.
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It's a fudge up of epic proportions

- Amorim plays one way, and a blind donkey could have seen the squad doesn't fit that system
- If they were going to go for him, they needed to do so last summer and given him the money instead of the additional brick bought for ETH
- There is no fudging legs in that squad
- All this talk about full refresh of players, who the fudge is going to buy Rashford, Casimrio, Eriksen, Anthony, De Ligt, Hojlund, Maguire, Martinez, Dalot? the first 3 alone is 800K/week in wages

Bedfordspurs said:
and the pseudo owner is taking every penny he can out of peoples pockets so he decent have to spend his on the players
They need to do it to buy anyone because of their PSR
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I don't see a way out of that hole for them ..
 
Raziel said:
Supposedly it isn't bad, last numbers were ~65% (pre some recent nonsense)

Think the issue is
- Debt is still ~900M+ at not ideal interest rates
- Owners constantly take money out of club (dividends)
- Ton of infrastructure costs outstanding (leaking roof, no screens, rats, etc.)
- Players like Rashford, Casimiro, etc on >$300K/week or like Anthony that they paid so much for, will result in huge book loss when sold (if anyone will actually take them)
- All of this when supposedly operating on the edge of PSR for some time now

Probably worse owners in league by some margin.
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Their debt interest isn't fixed like ours so has gone up when interest rates went up.

65% is a lot. Uefas cap will be amortisation + wages + transfer fees can't exceed 70% of turnover. I'm guessing their amortisation is quite high.
 
Lilbaz said:
Their debt interest isn't fixed like ours so has gone up when interest rates went up.

65% is a lot. Uefas cap will be amortisation + wages + transfer fees can't exceed 70% of turnover. I'm guessing their amortisation is quite high.
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And they have the highest football debt on the planet
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
I think I read they predict it (club wide cost cutting) will save them in the region if £30-35m over two years....even just for the loss of goodwill...it ain't worth it.

It's an epic decline all round since SAF departure.
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United always sold themselves on their traditions as a great club.

Ratcliffe is bricking all over that. They take money away from the low paid, stop supporting their former player's fund, get rid of Fergie from his ambassadorial role. All sound business decisions possibly but United are supposed to stand for more than that. This fella makes Daniel Levy look like Peter Ridsdale.

On top of that their stadium is falling down - holes in the roof, the press room leaking, mice infestation. They spunked a load of time and money on a fella they sacked within 6 months in Ashworth. On the pitch, they are an absolute shambles.

As bad as we look, they're in massive, massive trouble.
 
DeanoAustin said:
United always sold themselves on their traditions as a great club.

Ratcliffe is bricking all over that. They take money away from the low paid, stop supporting their former player's fund, get rid of Fergie from his ambassadorial role. All sound business decisions possibly but United are supposed to stand for more than that. This fella makes Daniel Levy look like Peter Ridsdale.

On top of that their stadium is falling down - holes in the roof, the press room leaking, mice infestation. They spunked a load of time and money on a fella they sacked within 6 months in Ashworth. On the pitch, they are an absolute shambles.

As bad as we look, they're in massive, massive trouble.
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All the mocking of clubs sacking their managers. United didn't work that way because they were a different class.

It's true they gave Ferguson time, but that was a different era and followed years of trying to replace Busby. United have built their success on two incredible managers who were able to rebuild their sides several times. There have been very few managers capable of building three or four sides over 20 years. Even the greats usually only manage one or two successful sides before the game moves on.
 
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