It's no good saying Liverpool have been spending loads but have the odd big sell too, that's exactly why they can spend loads. They have a bigger wage bill than us and probably average £30-50m net spend a season which given their revenue is higher than ours and the level of TV money seems to be sustainable to me. We would easily do the same if we weren't dropping £1b on a new stadium.
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Christian Eriksen
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Yeah it's not perfect, of course.
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For what it's worth here's gross spend on transfer fees i.e. this is fees spent on incoming transfers, without taking into account fees received for outgoing transfers. (The Emirates Marketing Project link is currently broken on the website).
This reflects Raziel's point that Liverpool have actually spent quite a lot of money over the last 5-10 years - the same as United in fact - they've just been able to partly fund it from some big outgoing transfers (Coutinho & Suarez) and/or have just had a lot of player churn in general.
But they are only spending that because of the big sales, similar to when we sold Bale and bought a load of players. Looked like we spent a lot but really it was just the incomings.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Yes they did as they had an influx of cash from the sale of Coutinho which they reinvested.
Not entirely true - you could say the Coutinho money covered Van Dijk, Oxlade and Salah last season. If you look at the table on the previous page, their net spend over the last 2 seasons has been about £115m - more than Spurs and Arsenal combined. (Though less than each of City, Utd and Chelsea)
Anyway, whatever definitions and time periods you use, I think everyone can probably agree that Liverpool spend more than us and less than City, Utd and Chelsea... right?
SteveAWOL
Chris Jones
Indeed...
Over the past 5 seasons we’ve spent around £524million on wages whilst Liverpool have paid their squad £857m over the same period.
So (combined with their net transfer activity figures which elltrev posted) that means Liverpool have splashed out over a £1billion on their players just since 2013, which is roughly double our net expenditure.
SteveAWOL
Chris Jones
Yup, hopefully NWHL proves to be the game changer we’ve been waiting for that allows Pochettino to assemble a squad which smashes the glass ceiling and sees Spurs winning silverware on a regular basis again.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
NWHL will bring in another £50M or more im sure
Plus we will finally know our cost base for the ground. I still say we won’t spend until we know what the ground cost as it’s all a risk
awesome dawson
Mitchell Thomas
Incredible goal when you watch it a few times. The way he shifted it back and outside the box to buy himself some space before passing it into the corner is something I don't think many in the world can do.
Hootnow
Jermaine Jenas
We'll have to see I guess. I'm not giving up hope just yet.
I can totally see Eriksen's viewpoint right now (assuming it isn't just down to money). He's hitting his prime, one of the best playmakers in the world but still with no trophies at Spurs and potentially with a few more years where we're not particularly spending much to help with the stadium costs. Levy isn't exactly the easiest negotiator for other clubs so imagine if he signed a long term contract and Barca came in and said 'we want you now!'. Eriksen says yes please and Levy says ok then, cough up £200 mil and you'll have him.
I don't think he's actively seeking a move away right now, which is reassuring. I think he's waiting to see a few things:
-What happens with Poch
-Whether we'll be in the CL next season
-Any trophies won this season
-Whether there is concrete interest from the likes of Real, Barca etc, clubs that are very difficult to turn down if you know you'll be going in as a first team player.
If there is concrete interest, I think we'll have to sell. If Poch goes, I think he'll seriously consider his options. Otherwise, I think there is a good chance he'll stay. He's settled here, part of a great team and we're doing generally good things. And if he did sign a new contract, he'd likely be earning between 150-200k. Maybe less than at the elite clubs but still a hefty amount.
The only thing that concerns me is that if he doesn't sign until the summer, he'll be one of the world's best playmakers with 1 season left on his contract. I wonder then if other clubs (Juve, PSG, Bayern, even City etc) wouldn't be able to pass up the opportunity to try to sign such an amazing player for a relatively reasonable fee. And if he won't sign, we will have to sell him in the summer I think unfortunately.
I just hope he does sign. He would be so so difficult to replace.
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imcallingbullsh*t
Steven Caulker
He is obviously holding out to see his value in the market, His realistic options if we want £100 - £150mil are Man Utd - Emirates Marketing Project - Chelsea - PSG - Barca - Real Madrid
Man Utd - Need to spend on defenders and a midfielder, and i cant see Eriksen being a big enough name for them
Emirates Marketing Project - Could see them being interested as a replacement for David Silva
Chelsea - Would only move if they lost Hazard, but in that case im not sure they would spend that much on eriksen and he doesn fit in with Sarri's style
PSG - They would buy him but not sure they can with FFP
Barca - Too similar to Coutinho for the spend
Real Madrid - Probably be seen as too similar to Ascensio, Isco to justify the case, plus Hazard would be preferred option
Added in, De Ligt, De Jong, Hazard, Icardi all moving for 70mil+ plus possible Bale available as well and as much as im nervous i dont see a natural escape for him.
My guess is that he's waiting to see if Hazard goes to RM
Man Utd - Need to spend on defenders and a midfielder, and i cant see Eriksen being a big enough name for them
Emirates Marketing Project - Could see them being interested as a replacement for David Silva
Chelsea - Would only move if they lost Hazard, but in that case im not sure they would spend that much on eriksen and he doesn fit in with Sarri's style
PSG - They would buy him but not sure they can with FFP
Barca - Too similar to Coutinho for the spend
Real Madrid - Probably be seen as too similar to Ascensio, Isco to justify the case, plus Hazard would be preferred option
Added in, De Ligt, De Jong, Hazard, Icardi all moving for 70mil+ plus possible Bale available as well and as much as im nervous i dont see a natural escape for him.
My guess is that he's waiting to see if Hazard goes to RM
I think that's a rather optimistic viewpoint, we've seen time and time again that if quality players are available then top teams will go for them regardless of whether they need them or not. They are top teams because they always look to add and improve their squad should the opportunity to do so arise. Not necessarily saying that they would all be in for him but Utd for instance would love him there, bar Mata they don't have that type of player and he's settled in the league so would be a great signing and very low risk for them. Ditty City.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
He's better than every player you've named there with the exception of Bale. If he's available, everyone will want him.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I think it's exactly that. If Hazard goes, he'll renew with us
imcallingbullsh*t
Steven Caulker
They may do, but i think they all have other priorities
I dont think anybody has £250mil to spend and i dont see him being any of those teams number 1 choice
afsoc4life
Vedran Corluka
He has my respect whatever happens as long as he doesnt move to any of the clubs in England..
Kandi1977
Garth Crooks
Man, your assumptions are just in your dreams. No club thinks like that. If they can get a top player, they will try to get him, regardless of who they already have. Why did City buy Mahrez, when they already had De Breune, Sterling, D Silva, B Silva, Sane, Gundogan+++?
Because they could, and want as strong a squad as they can.
Kandi1977
Garth Crooks
I can assure both of you that Eriksen couldn't care less about what Hazard does. What Hazard does or doesn't will have absolutely zero impact on his decision.
Exactly, plus Hazard's preferred direction is Madrid, Eriksen's is likely Barca