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Champions League 2017/18

Rorschach said:
I think I'm onto a losing battle but none the less, I would say that your dislike of Liverpool is tainting your opinion of The Beatles. I never try and critique another's opinion of music, it is in the ear of the beholder really, but honestly I'II put the Beatles music up as the bar against which others are compared. I say this as an amateur music lover now and one time pro musician.
Have another listen.
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I loathe Ken Dodd, Jimmy Tarbuck, Cilla Black and Dereck Hatton as well. I have never watched a episode of Bread or The Liverbirds. The only decent Beatles track was The long and Winding road, preferably sung by someone else.
 
I was looking at Real Madrid's record in European Cups and Champions Leagues. We all know they have won it 13 times, but their runners-up record is interesting, with only three. Since 1998 they have been in seven finals and won them all.

After Madrid's 13-3 the best records are Milan's 7-4, Barcelona's and Liverpool on 5-3, and Ajax at 4-2 (cut-off six finals). Bayern have split their finals (5-5) while Benfica (2-5) and Juventus (2-7) have horrible records.

It's also interesting how they have been far from dominant in Spain. Four out of five CL, but only one La Liga and only two in ten years.
 
Yermiyahu said:
I loathe Ken Dodd, Jimmy Tarbuck, Cilla Black and Dereck Hatton as well. I have never watched a episode of Bread or The Liverbirds. The only decent Beatles track was The long and Winding road, preferably sung by someone else.
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Yeah and Michael Owen has the kind of face you wouldn't get tired of slapping.
 
mephitis said:
'Twas ever thus. When he played for us he was the same. Might not have had the ball but he was looking for the next opening or position to take and make a pass. On the move constantly throughout the match.

Bigger loss than Bale.
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Could not agree more.

K.D.D.D.D.Soc said:
But he don't get stuck in or win any headers like a real midfielder should!!!!!!!
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A bit like Eriksen you mean ;)
 
I doubt Liverpool will get such a lucky run again in next years competition. The first streetwise team they played was in the final and they got comfortably beaten.

They have Emirates Marketing Project's number, I'll give them credit for that.

But they had a group of crap teams to come through -- Spartak Moscow (finished 3rd in Russia), Seville (finished 7th in Spain) and Maribor (who the phuck are they?), Porto in the first knockout stage (how many players can you name from their starting XI?) and Roma in the semis. That's Roma, with phucking Fazio at the back.

IMO, if they drew Juventus, Madrid or Bayern in the quarters (or first knockout round, in the case of Juventus/Madrid), that would have seen them go out at that stage. They had good draws to the final and got beat.
 
the dza said:
I doubt Liverpool will get such a lucky run again in next years competition. The first streetwise team they played was in the final and they got comfortably beaten.

They have Emirates Marketing Project's number, I'll give them credit for that.

But they had a group of crap teams to come through -- Spartak Moscow (finished 3rd in Russia), Seville (finished 7th in Spain) and Maribor (who the phuck are they?), Porto in the first knockout stage (how many players can you name from their starting XI?) and Roma in the semis. That's Roma, with phucking Fazio at the back.

IMO, if they drew Juventus, Madrid or Bayern in the quarters (or first knockout round, in the case of Juventus/Madrid), that would have seen them go out at that stage. They had good draws to the final and got beat.
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I agree, but you have to give them full respect for the way they deal with City. Definitely something we need to learn there.
 
Gazza Dazzla said:
I agree, but you have to give them full respect for the way they deal with City. Definitely something we need to learn there.
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Absolutely. I think they are a perfect match-up for City, their style just exploits the things that make City strong against most other teams (City pushing very high, playing out from the back and through midfield). Liverpool's players and system of play counters this perfectly.
 
galeforce said:
Are they dealing with city or are they just doing what they normally do whilst Pep is too arrogant to counter it?

Obviously it works either way.
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It’s their normal game and people are forgetting the huge amount of shocking decisions in this evanescence at times which would have changed the game...

City play a mid press with their full backs pushing on. Pool play long balls over the channels for salad and the like to run onto and it’s space that Emerson can’t cover

When we played pool we sat 10 yards back and as our full backs can’t bomb on the had no space to exploit so had to go through the middle and failed. City though have so much talent they can exploit you all over
 
My favourite CL final (though I can't remember most of the others).

AC Milan from a few years back is one, where Desailly was epic in midfield! What year was that?
 
the dza said:
I doubt Liverpool will get such a lucky run again in next years competition. The first streetwise team they played was in the final and they got comfortably beaten.

They have Emirates Marketing Project's number, I'll give them credit for that.

But they had a group of crap teams to come through -- Spartak Moscow (finished 3rd in Russia), Seville (finished 7th in Spain) and Maribor (who the phuck are they?), Porto in the first knockout stage (how many players can you name from their starting XI?) and Roma in the semis. That's Roma, with phucking Fazio at the back.

IMO, if they drew Juventus, Madrid or Bayern in the quarters (or first knockout round, in the case of Juventus/Madrid), that would have seen them go out at that stage. They had good draws to the final and got beat.
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And they barely made it out of the group stage with those 2nd rate teams.
 
Rorschach said:
My favourite CL final (though I can't remember most of the others).

AC Milan from a few years back is one, where Desailly was epic in midfield! What year was that?
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A few years? It's almost 25 years ago! That must have been the 94 final, when they beat Barca 4-0, despite Van Basten being out injured.
 
so, was Bale's goal better than Zidane's ? Both amazing pieces of technique, loved seeing Zizou's reaction to the strike
 
indospurs said:
so, was Bale's goal better than Zidane's ? Both amazing pieces of technique, loved seeing Zizou's reaction to the strike
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I'd say Bale, simply because he had so little time to react to the cross + having to reposition himself in a fraction of a second to even be able to hit the ball. Zidane's goal is great too, but he was just waiting for the ball to fall to him, completely unpressed. Don't get me wrong, it takes some crazy skill to hit it like he did, but I think the instinctiveness of Bale's goal wins it for me.
 
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