markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
fudge me they are getting ahead of themselves
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NorwegianSpursFan
Neil Ruddock
Fair play to them, if we'd beaten Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and City in our first ten games I'd be pretty confident aswell. They have made a great start, question is, how long will it last? Do we see them as contenders for the top four?, or will they fade away like last year?
This .. people forget they got out the block quickly last year as well.
top 10 for them is a good finish, top 4 is just stupidity statement wise, the inevitable dip in form will come, other teams will do more research and quite honestly, the lesson in the PL (which we have failed to learn from the Scum for a decade) is ...
its not how good you do against the top 4-6 teams (as much press as wins against City/Cheat$ki get you), its how you do against the bottom 14 teams (where they have actually not such a good record).
Not a chance.
They're running at 150% of their xG. They'll never stick it out. For a more realistic example of where they should be, take away about 9 goals and add a couple in the against column.
milo
Jack L. Jones
West Ham’s David Sullivan dreams of double – or top-four finish
• Team are currently third in Premier League, two points off top
• ‘I’m not talking it down. I want to talk it up. I believe it’s achievable’
West Ham’s joint-chairman, David Sullivan, is dreaming of winning the Premier League and FA Cup double this season.
The side have made a fine start to the campaign under their new manager, Slaven Bilic, and are third in the Premier League after 10 games, only two points off the top. Sullivan accepts going on to take the title may be a long shot but that is not preventing him from thinking big.
“We’re very, very optimistic,” he told the club’s website. “I’m not talking it down. I want to talk it up. I believe it’s achievable. Look at what’s gone wrong with Chelsea – that looked an impossibility – so why shouldn’t the opposite happen to us?
“In football, we’re here to dream. At the start of the season we were in four competitions and the aim was to win those four. Now we’re down to two – we’ve got the big double left – and it’s very, very unlikely but not impossible.”
West Ham have bold ambitions for the future with the club moving into London’s Olympic Stadium next season. Taking Champions League football to that arena is an obvious future target but, given current form, Sullivan thinks it could be possible from next year.
He said: “If you’d asked at the start of the season, I would have said it’s impossible this year. That said and done, it’s not impossible this season. Forget dreaming in the future. The unfortunate thing is that if you finish fourth you have to play a qualifying game – and no doubt we’d get a real toughie – like the fourth best team in Spain or Italy.
“Realistically, I’d love [to finish] fourth now and we’d take our chances. I know it’s unlikely but it really is possible. One more win and we’d be top of the table, looking down. I’m not sure how clever that would be as it’d really put pressure on people – it’s not bad to be two [points] off the lead.”
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• Team are currently third in Premier League, two points off top
• ‘I’m not talking it down. I want to talk it up. I believe it’s achievable’
West Ham’s joint-chairman, David Sullivan, is dreaming of winning the Premier League and FA Cup double this season.
The side have made a fine start to the campaign under their new manager, Slaven Bilic, and are third in the Premier League after 10 games, only two points off the top. Sullivan accepts going on to take the title may be a long shot but that is not preventing him from thinking big.
“We’re very, very optimistic,” he told the club’s website. “I’m not talking it down. I want to talk it up. I believe it’s achievable. Look at what’s gone wrong with Chelsea – that looked an impossibility – so why shouldn’t the opposite happen to us?
“In football, we’re here to dream. At the start of the season we were in four competitions and the aim was to win those four. Now we’re down to two – we’ve got the big double left – and it’s very, very unlikely but not impossible.”
West Ham have bold ambitions for the future with the club moving into London’s Olympic Stadium next season. Taking Champions League football to that arena is an obvious future target but, given current form, Sullivan thinks it could be possible from next year.
He said: “If you’d asked at the start of the season, I would have said it’s impossible this year. That said and done, it’s not impossible this season. Forget dreaming in the future. The unfortunate thing is that if you finish fourth you have to play a qualifying game – and no doubt we’d get a real toughie – like the fourth best team in Spain or Italy.
“Realistically, I’d love [to finish] fourth now and we’d take our chances. I know it’s unlikely but it really is possible. One more win and we’d be top of the table, looking down. I’m not sure how clever that would be as it’d really put pressure on people – it’s not bad to be two [points] off the lead.”
http://gu.com/p/4dmnp
This is why statistics and probability need to form part of compulsory education in this country.
milo
Jack L. Jones
And compulsory how to spot a spiv classes for the under tens.
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
david sullivan said:
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
If anyone wants a laugh, listen to Talkbrick right now; they're discussing the Spammers and whether they can make top 4....many of their fans stating that their squad is clearly better than ours.
milo
Jack L. Jones
On a more serious note, you are right.
Some of the nonsense posted on here by people who do not know how to interpret data or understand probability drives me mad.
What is even more maddening is that our politicians and journalists are no better and when they get it wrong it has an impact.
jaysea67
Erik Edman
Unlike the Europa League where they got to play the fourth best team in Romania. How did that go David?
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Not sure who that is directed at but you are right sometimes, mind you I get driven mad by those who think that statistics and probability are the answer for everything.
milo
Jack L. Jones
Not sure who that is directed at but you are right sometimes, mind you I get driven mad by those who think that statistics and probability are the answer for everything.
Not directed at anyone in particular. Selective use of stats to support prejudices gets my goat. Stats are best used to challenge your preconceptions.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
I do agree with that, but they are a tool no more no less. ( however I am not getting into that again
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