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They have just released a statement to the effect that Moyes is not being dumped at the end of the season, they will be negotiating with him at the end of the season. Almost a vote of confidence.
 
I know a few who were not happy but bought the dream far to easy, I think thats why the hate is so much now, feel like they were mad mugs of and to some extent they were.

They were total mugs - remember telling them (ones i know) they were getting fleeced and how no one with any ambition rents a ground - just as all the Italian clubs have cottoned on that you need your own ground to make real money and they're all moving out of the government owned ones West Ham are doing the reverse! All they cared about at the time was 'beating us to the ground' - Levy done them up a kipper there
 
They were total mugs - remember telling them (ones i know) they were getting fleeced and how no one with any ambition rents a ground - just as all the Italian clubs have cottoned on that you need your own ground to make real money and they're all moving out of the government owned ones West Ham are doing the reverse! All they cared about at the time was 'beating us to the ground' - Levy done them up a kipper there

Exactly that, they thought they’d got one over on us.
 
I think I read an earlier posting about the future of the site, and I agree with the suggestion that the original terms may change. Governments and their policies change all the time and I wouldn't be surprised to see either West Ham being able to totally change the structure of the stadium with public money or even being able to purchase it for £1.
 
I think I read an earlier posting about the future of the site, and I agree with the suggestion that the original terms may change. Governments and their policies change all the time and I wouldn't be surprised to see either West Ham being able to totally change the structure of the stadium with public money or even being able to purchase it for £1.

Not while there is such scrutiny around it.

Boris was as bent as a £9 note, that whole deal is as corrupt as it gets. And Khan is getting a lot of mileage out of that as well.

The whole thing is of such a profile there is no way they would let it go off like that.

And, ultimately, even if they did - West Ham would need to knock it down and rebuild it for it to even work for them, which I doubt they have the appetite for. And I wonder if the whole "legacy" thing would impede as well.
 
Not while there is such scrutiny around it.

Boris was as bent as a £9 note, that whole deal is as corrupt as it gets. And Khan is getting a lot of mileage out of that as well.

The whole thing is of such a profile there is no way they would let it go off like that.

And, ultimately, even if they did - West Ham would need to knock it down and rebuild it for it to even work for them, which I doubt they have the appetite for. And I wonder if the whole "legacy" thing would impede as well.

In a honest world you'd be right, but when dealing with politicians and billionaires all things can change if there's money in it. Legacy? Who cares? As few people who go to athletic meetings, the general public who are more concerned with Strictly or Big Brother. A story will be told with pictures, stats and rent-a-mouths to show how it will benefit us all, that's the way the world works, forget about promises and right and wrong.
 
West Ham football club gave a donation to the Tory party following the deal, not Brady or Sullivan but the club. Its only £7K but that is dodgy as hell.

Coe is the real bad guy as he was determined to have no shared use stadium (said it would mean they wouldn't win the bid) but after that there are loads of issues. The original plan for 20,000 (?) seater was the only option other than knocking it down and starting again.

This was all compounded by Karren squeezing every penny out of the deal and not paying for anything meaning the E20 are doing the bear minimum - they save a pound and the fans are shafted.
 
In a honest world you'd be right, but when dealing with politicians and billionaires all things can change if there's money in it. Legacy? Who cares? As few people who go to athletic meetings, the general public who are more concerned with Strictly or Big Brother. A story will be told with pictures, stats and rent-a-mouths to show how it will benefit us all, that's the way the world works, forget about promises and right and wrong.

I still think, given the profile of it, it would be a hard one to pull.

Dont get me wrong, in general I would be in full agreement. But in this specific instance? I dont see how it can happen.

Not least because we both know Levy would screw them on it :D



West Ham football club gave a donation to the Tory party following the deal, not Brady or Sullivan but the club. Its only £7K but that is dodgy as hell.

Coe is the real bad guy as he was determined to have no shared use stadium (said it would mean they wouldn't win the bid) but after that there are loads of issues. The original plan for 20,000 (?) seater was the only option other than knocking it down and starting again.

This was all compounded by Karren squeezing every penny out of the deal and not paying for anything meaning the E20 are doing the bear minimum - they save a pound and the fans are shafted.

I know many, many Spurs fans didnt like the idea of us moving, but I genuinely believe our offer was the best one.

Crystal Palace, traditional home to Athletics, with a brand new stadium taken from the Olympic site, is a proper and fitting "legacy", IMO. Year round facilities, not shared, and appropriate to demand. In a "proper" place for it.

To this day I believe that was the best deal for athletics.

And, of course, a purpose built stadium on that site in Stratford would have been a far better result for any football club than what is there now.

I think Levy was genuine in going, maybe not ideal but it was a smart route to a new stadium. However, I also think if given the option Levy would have done what he is doing now. I love how he leveraged that whole situation to not only get us where we are with our stadium, but screw West Ham and Coe in the process :D
 
I still think, given the profile of it, it would be a hard one to pull.

Dont get me wrong, in general I would be in full agreement. But in this specific instance? I dont see how it can happen.

Not least because we both know Levy would screw them on it :D





I know many, many Spurs fans didnt like the idea of us moving, but I genuinely believe our offer was the best one.

Crystal Palace, traditional home to Athletics, with a brand new stadium taken from the Olympic site, is a proper and fitting "legacy", IMO. Year round facilities, not shared, and appropriate to demand. In a "proper" place for it.

To this day I believe that was the best deal for athletics.

And, of course, a purpose built stadium on that site in Stratford would have been a far better result for any football club than what is there now.

I think Levy was genuine in going, maybe not ideal but it was a smart route to a new stadium. However, I also think if given the option Levy would have done what he is doing now. I love how he leveraged that whole situation to not only get us where we are with our stadium, but screw West Ham and Coe in the process :D

Of course it was the best offer (for everyone but us, would have hated to have won), but the porn midgets didn't want to spend any money on the stadium so used the fact that we would knock down the "iconic" stadium to "win", even though this is how it was always designed. - they then used our offer to con their fans into backing the move.
 
Not while there is such scrutiny around it.

Boris was as bent as a £9 note, that whole deal is as corrupt as it gets. And Khan is getting a lot of mileage out of that as well.

The whole thing is of such a profile there is no way they would let it go off like that.

And, ultimately, even if they did - West Ham would need to knock it down and rebuild it for it to even work for them, which I doubt they have the appetite for. And I wonder if the whole "legacy" thing would impede as well.

You make a couple of important points. In the present climate, it would be impossible to "give" West Ham the stadium (they can't afford to buy, so it would have to be a gift, even if dressed up as a purchase). But over time the level of scrutiny will decline. In a decade the thinking could be very different, especially if new owners are pleading the case. I think there is a very good chance that West Ham will eventually get ownership.

However, you also point out that they would need to knock it down and rebuild it for it to work as a football stadium. Clearly they cannot afford to do this so continuing with the lease might be best for the club. This, though, might not be in the best interests of the owners, who might consider ownership of the stadium increases the value of their asset. The fans could get shafted again, having to pay something to buy the stadium (a token payment on a billion pound stadium is still a lot of money), while not getting the improvements they need as spectators.

Regardless, I find it hard to believe that the current unsatisfactory arrangement can last the length of the lease. It's not good for the tax payer or the fans.
 
Of course it was the best offer (for everyone but us, would have hated to have won), but the porn midgets didn't want to spend any money on the stadium so used the fact that we would knock down the "iconic" stadium to "win", even though this is how it was always designed. - they then used our offer to con their fans into backing the move.

Indeed, couldnt happen to a nicer club.

You make a couple of important points. In the present climate, it would be impossible to "give" West Ham the stadium (they can't afford to buy, so it would have to be a gift, even if dressed up as a purchase). But over time the level of scrutiny will decline. In a decade the thinking could be very different, especially if new owners are pleading the case. I think there is a very good chance that West Ham will eventually get ownership.

However, you also point out that they would need to knock it down and rebuild it for it to work as a football stadium. Clearly they cannot afford to do this so continuing with the lease might be best for the club. This, though, might not be in the best interests of the owners, who might consider ownership of the stadium increases the value of their asset. The fans could get shafted again, having to pay something to buy the stadium (a token payment on a billion pound stadium is still a lot of money), while not getting the improvements they need as spectators.

Regardless, I find it hard to believe that the current unsatisfactory arrangement can last the length of the lease. It's not good for the tax payer or the fans.

I feel like there is political will to keep it at a certain profile, and as I say - do you ever thing Levy would let them get away with it without causing a fuss? Not just Levy - but other football clubs, there is a dangerous precedent being set if the government actively hands a stadium to a club.

Indeed, a huge asset to a private company.

While I dont doubt the general fuss around the stadium will die down, I still dont think something like that would come to pass without a lot of objection.
 
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