Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
Which greats have won fudge all?
Harry Kane
Paul Gascoigne
Son Hueng-Min
Which greats have won fudge all?
Every time we play outside of the CL the club and the players get lazy
Yeh but each run isn't comparable because it it is unique to the year and team, Villa have had a fair run but that's not the same for all. We could say Dortmund being in the SF makes the CL more viable because in any other given year the majority of the cream are better than them. We always seem to judge potential of competitions on others experience than what the reality likely looks for usI think if we had really gone for it, we could and should have gone further in the EL, we had enough cracks at it. Villa have got to the semis of the ECL and currently sit in 4th. They should have course not win the ECL and finish 5th. The furthest we have gone in the Europa is the quarter final in 2007.
Which showed a huge disregard for the competitionPoch rotated heavily in the EL at times too, rested players for the league.
Gazza was in the team that won the FA Cup in 1991, albeit briefly ...Harry Kane
Paul Gascoigne
Son Hueng-Min
Gazza was in the team that won the FA Cup in 1991, albeit briefly ...
Yeh but each run isn't comparable because it it is unique to the year and team, Villa have had a fair run but that's not the same for all, had they met Bayer i would expect them out, in fact they wont beat them should they face them IMO. We could say Dortmund being in the SF makes the CL more viable because in any other given year the majority of the cream are better than them.
I'm actually relaxed on it now, my expectations on Spurs is now wait and see rather than expected, so I can take or leave either in truth as long as we improve.
Where I kinda laugh at the whole thing is the idea that those most demanding selling the idea they take a lesser comp, just to win something, mainly laughable because they are the same that cry about finance and would also cry about league performance that pushes us into those comps. Weird contrary mindset there
Nah the conference league is a
Villa & Bayer are in different competitions
Harry kaneWhich greats have won fudge all?
It's not harder. Look at who normally wins the domestic titles. For the last 10 years they've been won every year bar one or two by City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Utd and Chelsea. Easier to come 4th in league behind 3 of those as usually 1 or 2 will have an off year.It’s harder to qualify for the CL than win a domestic cup IMO.
The reason for the honours board thing is simple, the perception hasn’t caught up with the reality as to where the value is in the respective competitions.
It's not harder. Look at who normally wins the domestic titles. For the last 10 years they've been won every year bar one or two by City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Utd and Chelsea. Easier to come 4th in league behind 3 of those as usually 1 or 2 will have an off year.
Quick point on us "not prioritising the cups", both Manchester clubs phoned it in this weekend yet still ended up in the final.
But you also have to deliver when the pressure is on in cup games, it’s win or go home. In the last 10 years or so (mainly in the Poch era) we thrived when the pressure wasn’t on us. As soon as there was any kind of crunch knockout game or league game to put us top of the league we froze. People often point to our superior GD to Chelsea when they pipped us to the title in 2016/17. We won the last two league games 6-1 and 7-1 when the title was already gone and the pressure was off. The only outlier was the CL campaign in 2019 when somehow we beat Emirates Marketing Project and came from behind to beat Ajax. We often looked like the best team in the league when we were chasing Leicester and Chelsea but lost our nerve whenever we got really close to them.
We did absolutely fudge all in the CL final too.
My point today was that the "big clubs" don't always bother with the FA Cup either, neither Manchester side were that interested in getting to the final based on their level of performance.
That final was awful because of three thingsNeither team played well in that final. The 3 week break between the last PL game and the final did neither team any favours.
I didn’t see either game this weekend but I would have imagined Emirates Marketing Project wanted to get back to winning ways as they are out of the CL and the league isn’t a done deal. Put out a full strength team from what I could see, Dias aside. Looks like United went full strength also. Will be hard for them to sack ETH if they beat Emirates Marketing Project in the final.
But you also have to deliver when the pressure is on in cup games, it’s win or go home. In the last 10 years or so (mainly in the Poch era) we thrived when the pressure wasn’t on us. As soon as there was any kind of crunch knockout game or league game to put us top of the league we froze. People often point to our superior GD to Chelsea when they pipped us to the title in 2016/17. We won the last two league games 6-1 and 7-1 when the title was already gone and the pressure was off. The only outlier was the CL campaign in 2019 when somehow we beat Emirates Marketing Project and came from behind to beat Ajax. We often looked like the best team in the league when we were chasing Leicester and Chelsea but lost our nerve whenever we got really close to them.
But you also have to deliver when the pressure is on in cup games, it’s win or go home. In the last 10 years or so (mainly in the Poch era) we thrived when the pressure wasn’t on us. As soon as there was any kind of crunch knockout game or league game to put us top of the league we froze. People often point to our superior GD to Chelsea when they pipped us to the title in 2016/17. We won the last two league games 6-1 and 7-1 when the title was already gone and the pressure was off. The only outlier was the CL campaign in 2019 when somehow we beat Emirates Marketing Project and came from behind to beat Ajax. We often looked like the best team in the league when we were chasing Leicester and Chelsea but lost our nerve whenever we got really close to them.
It goes further back than the Poch era, I think we're looking at at least the early 2000s.
I think it runs through our entire history.