Brennan Johnson

[Muttley]

No stat is useless, because you should always be considering the context.

Correct, and it's often the trends of stats and the grouping of stats that tell the story.

As an example, look at the dribblers passing stats or the passers dribbling stats. I would have no problem with guys like Spence and Odobert letting their passing stats slip if they did unpredictable things in the right areas. I'd be worried if our centre halves had really low passing stats though.

Perhaps Ange is last in the fantasy football league at the club. He's not playing enough champ manager like the players to know what's going on.

 

[parklane1]

The point is he is saying using assists as a STATISTIC is useless because there are many scenarios around how a player can get an assist, it's not automatically demonstrative of a great piece of play by a player to get the assist. He's not saying assists aren't important, I would have thought the point is pretty obvious and what many many other people have said - not sure what the big deal is here....

Excately this one of the things i dislike about the game in todays time is that so many fans place so much importance on STATS that are made up to make money on sites that feed it to punters who put far to much importance on them. Stats can be a usfull tool but so many fans are led to believe they are the holy grail. It a lot of cases they are not.

 

[Gazza Dazzla]

The point is he is saying using assists as a STATISTIC is useless because there are many scenarios around how a player can get an assist, it's not automatically demonstrative of a great piece of play by a player to get the assist. He's not saying assists aren't important, I would have thought the point is pretty obvious and what many many other people have said - not sure what the big deal is here....

Yea it’s prettty obvious exactly what he meant by it, but it can be twisted to have a go at Ange, so….

 

[Baleforce]

Excately this one of the things i dislike about the game in todays time is that so many fans place so much importance on STATS that are made up to make money on sites that feed it to punters who put far to much importance on them. Stats can be a usfull tool but so many fans are led to believe they are the holy grail. It a lot of cases they are not.

They are if you have all of the right ones.

 

[Bullet]

Excately this one of the things i dislike about the game in todays time is that so many fans place so much importance on STATS that are made up to make money on sites that feed it to punters who put far to much importance on them. Stats can be a usfull tool but so many fans are led to believe they are the holy grail. It a lot of cases they are not.

You've said this at least once per week on this site, every week, for about 10 years. That's about 500 times. That's quite some stat you've achieved there.

 

[Baleforce]

You've said this at least once per week on this site, every week, for about 10 years. That's about 500 times. That's quite some stat you've achieved there.

Well, you pays your money, you takes your choice.

 

[parklane1]

You've said this at least once per week on this site, every week, for about 10 years. That's about 500 times. That's quite some stat you've achieved there.

Ans still there are fans who are foolish enough to believe that they tell the full/true story.

 

[Baleforce]

Ans still there are fans who are foolish enough to believe that they tell the full/true story.

is that the ones on twitter?

 

[parklane1]

is that the ones on twitter?

tacos on twitter who would have thought.

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

Let’s see how rashford fares over a longer time but I get your logic
I just don’t get why a guy who has been doing what most consider the hardest thing is the whipping boy for many
In fact I don’t get why we have to have one full stop
There is a gig 2 rows behind me. I was told he is a teacher. He is a proper clam. He literally spends all game slagging the gig off. I can’t remember the game but he was be bemoaning Johnson not tracking back (this guys miss 30s with a tramp beard so not Baleforce) and when the team dealt with it, countered and Johnson scored he didn’t celebrate. He carried on bemoaning the earlier lack of tracking even though it clearly was and isn’t part of the plan
Weird fudger who clearly comes to spurs to compensate for his bricky life
And before Brennan this guys pet hate was Kulu and before him winks
Just stands there and mains constantly

Hope he never checks your spelling on here.

 

[NLS]

Another disappointing performance from Brennan yesterday....

There was point in the game when the ball was knocked forward , Solanke won the header and Johnson kicked the ball forward... He showed good pace to catch up and overtake the defender which I thought he might be able to do.....

He was then a good yard in front of the defender and running at full pace but then he stopped, allowed the defender to get goalside and just passed the ball safely backwards.....

Is that down to lack of ability or confidence? Either way, it is a big problem and the management must address the issue....

Coys.

 

[Yiddo]

I’d get rid of

Romero
Bentancur
Son
Maddison
Werner
Tel

Before i would get rid of Johnson but he is the spacegoat this year so i get why people are constantly bashing him.

Bentancur seems to be able to do no wrong on the pitch even though he is bang average but lets take it all out on Johnson.

 

[NLS]

I am not looking at Johnson as a spacegoat for all our woes and i dont disagree with the list of players you mentioned..

But I very seldom see Johnson dribble his way past players so i do expect him to use his pace when he has the opportunity... He was ahead of the defender but stopped, a good attack came to nothing and surely it is valid and reasonable to ask why.... Especially on a Brennan Johnson thread in a Spurs forum.

 

[Jurgen the German]

I’d get rid of

Romero
Bentancur
Son
Maddison
Werner
Tel

Before i would get rid of Johnson but he is the spacegoat this year so i get why people are constantly bashing him.

Bentancur seems to be able to do no wrong on the pitch even though he is bang average but lets take it all out on Johnson.

Richarlison, Werner and Bissouma would be the first ones I’d get rid of. The midfield is pretty average and we need a standout player as we currently have a lot of 6/10 players. Same goes for the forwards, including Johnson. Not saying I’d sell him but I’d definitely look to upgrade him in the summer and then it’s up to him to develop his game and fight for his place.

 

[Bullet]

Another disappointing performance from Brennan yesterday....

There was point in the game when the ball was knocked forward , Solanke won the header and Johnson kicked the ball forward... He showed good pace to catch up and overtake the defender which I thought he might be able to do.....

He was then a good yard in front of the defender and running at full pace but then he stopped, allowed the defender to get goalside and just passed the ball safely backwards.....

Is that down to lack of ability or confidence? Either way, it is a big problem and the management must address the issue....

Coys.

I know what you mean. Johnson was fractionally ahead of Huijsen but Huijsen is very fast once he gets his 7 foot long legs working, so Johnson bottled it and backed off.
Interestingly a couple of minutes later he was in the same situation vs Kerkez and DID keep going, he probably pondered on his bottling and decided that this time he would go for it.
He got into the box fractionally ahead of Kerkez and put his leg across Kerkez but Kerkez just kicked through him and cleared the ball.
Salah would have got a pen, Johnson just got a very sore leg.

 

[Bishop]

I’d get rid of

Romero
Bentancur
Son
Maddison
Werner
Tel

Before i would get rid of Johnson but he is the spacegoat this year so i get why people are constantly bashing him.

Bentancur seems to be able to do no wrong on the pitch even though he is bang average but lets take it all out on Johnson.

I'd sell Johnson because hes someone I don't rate but more importantly I think we could potentially get our money back for him off the back of this season. If the opposition aren't watching him too closely, they'll see his goal return stats and possibly think hes a good player to buy. I do think post this season its unlikely we will ever get that 50m back for him because I don't envisage whoever comes in next using him as much or in the same way.

 

[Jurgen the German]

I'd sell Johnson because hes someone I don't rate but more importantly I think we could potentially get our money back for him off the back of this season. If the opposition aren't watching him too closely, they'll see his goal return stats and possibly think hes a good player to buy. I do think post this season its unlikely we will ever get that 50m back for him because I don't envisage whoever comes in next using him as much or in the same way.

Any system that asks him to do more than score tap ins he might struggle. Unless he goes back to Forest as they play on the counter.

 

[metalgear]

go look at johnson's highlights reel and he is capable of much more than tap ins and touchline crosses.

seems like he regressed under ange.

udogie,, sarr, bentancur and bissouma also looked better under conte and have never looked worse

 

[billyiddo]

go look at johnson's highlights reel and he is capable of much more than tap ins and touchline crosses.

seems like he regressed under ange.

udogie,, sarr, bentancur and bissouma also looked better under conte and have never looked worse

As per usual you're talking absoloute BS here.

Udogie didn't play under Conte.

Sarr was mostly overlooked by Conte and was only played in 11 matches.

Bissouma was rubbish under Conte, certainly worse than he was last season under Ange.

Bentancur was the only one of that group who had played better consistently under Conte and in-between he's had a long injury layoff followed by further injuries on his road to recovery.