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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 84 73.7%

  • Out

    Votes: 30 26.3%
  • Total voters
    114
Bedfordspurs said:
He won’t get the sack
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Really? next 6 games

- Could be in 13th-15th place if we fail to pick up point against Forest, Wolves & Saudi Sportswashing Machine
- Lose the first leg of semi against Liverpool by same score as last week-end, we are out
- Be 13th on Jan 15th and taking a beating from Arsenal, what do you think the mob view is going to be?
- And that's followed up by away to Everton and away game in Germany for Europa

Every game between now and January 23rd except Tamworth is a potential loss, and while no, we aren't going to lose all, we need to win a lot more than we are likely to.

I continue to believe the club is backing him and he has until the end of season but with @Mikey10 here, lose 3 of next 6 (includes Forest, Arsenal & Pool), draw 2 (Saudi Sportswashing Machine, Wolves) and only win Tamworth? I think he's gone.
 
Raziel said:

Read between the lines, your most committed/effective player is saying "you have to learn" & "maybe you need to adjust"

Players are just as fickle as fans, we actually have a few in this side that care, and hate losing, Ange needs to manage that.
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You see the divergence of opinions on here where the majority are questioning the wisdom of our tactics. In the media, pretty much every pundit is disagreeing with Ange to some degree. There is no way there aren’t players in that squad and the team who aren’t thinking “this is a bit mad”. These are top pros who’ve made unbelievable sacrifices to get to where they are and they’re the ones who are getting embarrassed at times.

It’s a tough one for Ange to manage. Management is hard enough in everyday life. Can’t imagine how tough it is going in to try and direct lads who are all listening to the media saying that the manager’s game plan is destined to fail.
 
DeanoAustin said:
You see the divergence of opinions on here where the majority are questioning the wisdom of our tactics. In the media, pretty much every pundit is disagreeing with Ange to some degree. There is no way there aren’t players in that squad and the team who aren’t thinking “this is a bit mad”. These are top pros who’ve made unbelievable sacrifices to get to where they are and they’re the ones who are getting embarrassed at times.

It’s a tough one for Ange to manage. Management is hard enough in everyday life. Can’t imagine how tough it is going in to try and direct lads who are all listening to the media saying that the manager’s game plan is destined to fail.
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I don't think it's just the media though

The place I think it is a problem is the players like Gray & Bergvall, no way the senior players aren't thinking, we should protect the kids a little more, especially our lot, players like Biss with Sarr, Deki with Bergvall, Ben/Son with Gray, we have good players (as people) who have taken on almost big brother roles that are obvious even outside.

That's why I was glad in the pre-Forest presser, Ange was clear, he can't blame the players, his attack on Werner was a mistake and is the kind of thing that will derail him in a very quick time.
 
Mikey10 said:
They all get the sack eventually. If he doesn’t adapt I think he’ll be gone by the start of next season - quite possibly sooner.
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True that they all do
But it won’t be for a while
I know we have fans who think he should be sacked now, but we also have fans who think levy should be sacked forgetting he owns the club
 
Raziel said:
Really? next 6 games

- Could be in 13th-15th place if we fail to pick up point against Forest, Wolves & Saudi Sportswashing Machine
- Lose the first leg of semi against Liverpool by same score as last week-end, we are out
- Be 13th on Jan 15th and taking a beating from Arsenal, what do you think the mob view is going to be?
- And that's followed up by away to Everton and away game in Germany for Europa

Every game between now and January 23rd except Tamworth is a potential loss, and while no, we aren't going to lose all, we need to win a lot more than we are likely to.

I continue to believe the club is backing him and he has until the end of season but with @Mikey10 here, lose 3 of next 6 (includes Forest, Arsenal & Pool), draw 2 (Saudi Sportswashing Machine, Wolves) and only win Tamworth? I think he's gone.
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Wait and see
 
Apart from Mourinho and Conte (due to the football, the toxic personality and the fact that 'world class managers' needd exactly the right players to allow them to be world class) I haven't been that upset by any of the appointments. I have no say over them, no vote or input so I try not to get wound up by this is beyond my control. 1


I didn't like Goonersaurus either but apart from that I've gone along with it all. I was a nig Jol fan even when results weren't great.
 
Raziel said:
Really? next 6 games

- Could be in 13th-15th place if we fail to pick up point against Forest, Wolves & Saudi Sportswashing Machine
- Lose the first leg of semi against Liverpool by same score as last week-end, we are out
- Be 13th on Jan 15th and taking a beating from Arsenal, what do you think the mob view is going to be?
- And that's followed up by away to Everton and away game in Germany for Europa

Every game between now and January 23rd except Tamworth is a potential loss, and while no, we aren't going to lose all, we need to win a lot more than we are likely to.

I continue to believe the club is backing him and he has until the end of season but with @Mikey10 here, lose 3 of next 6 (includes Forest, Arsenal & Pool), draw 2 (Saudi Sportswashing Machine, Wolves) and only win Tamworth? I think he's gone.
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The mob view is the problem
As I said a few days ago this is arsenal after arteta was 18 months in except he didn’t have the up injury crisis
Hell he did win an FA cuo early doors but apparently that wasn’t his side unless it suits the argument. And the diners and why I’m raising it is because their mind wanted him gone. Their board even interviewed other managers including Poch.
And I think we will limp to maybe 2 wins and a draw in the next 6 because we are knackered and the 18 year olds can’t lift a team with nothing in the tank. We’re looking at kids who can’t even grow a beard to do things they arent ready for. If fans think that’s in the manager the he can never win, but a new guy will still have the injury issues until it ends
 
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