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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 83 77.6%

  • Out

    Votes: 24 22.4%
  • Total voters
    107
braineclipse said:
To be fair some of those on here at least who are more towards the Ange out side seem to be so because they believe his approach tactically and his "stubbornness" and lack of flexibility means that he just won't be successful for us or at this level.

It's not an opinion I agree with, but I can understand why someone holding that opinion would be more Ange out, also without that being a sign of larger societal issues. (Not denying those issues also exist).
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the first half hour of this game right now, this is why I want him out, he allows games to be open, its end to end, both teams have chances

I fudging hate that

shut it down, this isn't how you win anything
 
Glenda's Legs said:
I’m sorry but that is just a ridiculously anti-Spurs article. I haven’t really read 365 for a few years but the journalism was always pretty good as I remember it. Not saying there aren’t some accuracies in there but the tone and some of the language should rile every Sours fan.
The opening to the last para “Southampton away up next for these absolute clowns,” is a prime example.
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It's a bit anti spurs in a banter way. It's just the way we might talk about Arsenal, Chelsea, West Ham, Man U or what have you when they're having banter seasons.

The clowns comment i think is fair when given the context of the article and how we've been playing at times this season and last. Throwing away leads, stupid penalties, naive play.

You know the way we play and the way our players act on the pitch looks amateurish. Caragher was scathing in the commentary against Chelsea.

You know actually a lot of non-spurs fans think we are entitled and we always moan about managers and our board when we haven't won anything meaningful in years. But this article and actually more and more "neutrals" or even rivals are looking at what Ange is serving up and thinking we (spurs fans) deserve better...
 
He's really making it hard to keep patience with him. Constantly playing players in the wrong position, strange subs, and that's on top of the way he sets the team up. Want to at least give him till the end of the season but each performance seems to be getting worse.
 
1 win in 8 (eight) matches. Totally unacceptable. No excuses and much as I wanted Ange to work out, and enjoyed some of the football at times it’s far too infrequent. Most of the time we appear one dimensional, easy to play through, and a soft centre. We have talented players at the club and very few playing at the level to which we know that they can. I’m finding it hard to justify backing him now.
 
I have to admit I find it difficult to see how he's going to turn it around, unless we can get a bit of a streak going into the new year and hopefully sign a few new players. I was talking to a Celtic mate of mine today, and he says he doesn't recognize anything of how he set up Celtic to play in this current Spurs team - especially how we don't press anywhere near what they did. How come we don't? Surely we don't have inferior players to Celtic? Sure, we have a lot of tired legs out there, and a lot of injuries - it's obviously hard to field a good team under those conditions, but we do have a relatively large squad and players drilled in the same system - why not rotate more? You don't have to completely switch the side around everytime, just rotate at least 2 or 3 players every game when the schedule is hectic, just give people a rest, play Spence instead of Porro one game, Reguilon instead of Udogie one game (we have to use what we have). I don't understand why we we haven't done that. We barely got by playing the games we did last season and we're playing almost the double amount of games this season. We were bound to get injuries and fatigue. Poor squad management in my book. Also players constantly being played out of place, instead of using younger players to play in their actual positions. They were supposedly good enough at the start of the season, then no games at all when the season started. I find it odd.

Ange obviously knows a lot more football than I do, and he probably got his reason. It just doesn't look particularly good from the outside.
 
Daisuk said:
I have to admit I find it difficult to see how he's going to turn it around, unless we can get a bit of a streak going into the new year and hopefully sign a few new players. I was talking to a Celtic mate of mine today, and he says he doesn't recognize anything of how he set up Celtic to play in this current Spurs team - especially how we don't press anywhere near what they did. How come we don't? Surely we don't have inferior players to Celtic? Sure, we have a lot of tired legs out there, and a lot of injuries - it's obviously hard to field a good team under those conditions, but we do have a relatively large squad and players drilled in the same system - why not rotate more? You don't have to completely switch the side around everytime, just rotate at least 2 or 3 players every game when the schedule is hectic, just give people a rest, play Spence instead of Porro one game, Reguilon instead of Udogie one game (we have to use what we have). I don't understand why we we haven't done that. We barely got by playing the games we did last season and we're playing almost the double amount of games this season. We were bound to get injuries and fatigue. Poor squad management in my book. Also players constantly being played out of place, instead of using younger players to play in their actual positions. They were supposedly good enough at the start of the season, then no games at all when the season started. I find it odd.

Ange obviously knows a lot more football than I do, and he probably got his reason. It just doesn't look particularly good from the outside.
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Momentum is a bitch .. look at City

We really needed to get a result here, week-end and in cup against United.

A bad result on the week-end becomes a disaster now ..
 
DubSpur said:
He's really making it hard to keep patience with him. Constantly playing players in the wrong position, strange subs, and that's on top of the way he sets the team up. Want to at least give him till the end of the season but each performance seems to be getting worse.
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Exactly.
His philosophy might work long term, but if it takes two years to bed, you have to find solutions in for the now as well.

Must admit I don't buy into it anymore.
The players make the noises that they do; but the performances don't back that up.

That's one win in 9(?) now?
 
Kompakted said:
Nails it for me:

www.football365.com

Postecoglou sack inevitable as 'exciting' Spurs are actually exhausting

Ultimately, Spurs are only really fun for everyone else. If you support them it’s exhausting rather than exciting because it's all going nowhere.
www.football365.com www.football365.com
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He will get sacked and not just because that's what happens to managers. It will be within the next year, but probably this season.

Just start defending properly. It doesn't mean we have to play more defensively, two different things, we just need to get the basics right. Both our FBs get dragged in centrally, yet nobody's marking anyone. We're so open at the back, but can't counterattack properly. We're outnumbered everywhere despite running around like crazy.
 
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