American politics

[StephenH]

Bingo. The blind leading the blind in most cases.

But who are the blind you refer to?

I'm finding an intelligent man such of yourself acting as an apologist for the likes of KKK et al as sad!

If you think Black lives matter, who are not without faults, are on the same level as the KKK and and other suck white religious bigots, then I'm disappointed.

Edit : I don't want to fall out with anybody over this so let's agree to disagree.

 

[parklane1]

But who are the blind you refer to?

I'm finding an intelligent man such of yourself acting as an apologist for the likes of KKK et al as sad!

If you think Black lives matter, who are not without faults, are on the same level as the KKK and and other suck white religious bigots, then I'm disappointed.

Edit : I don't want to fall out with anybody over this so let's agree to disagree.

Probably for the best.

 

[Jordinho]

 

[Baleforce]

as he'd surely say, SAD

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

But who are the blind you refer to?

I'm finding an intelligent man such of yourself acting as an apologist for the likes of KKK et al as sad!

If you think Black lives matter, who are not without faults, are on the same level as the KKK and and other suck white religious bigots, then I'm disappointed.

Edit : I don't want to fall out with anybody over this so let's agree to disagree.

Dont know if he is an apologist of just pointing out that we have had an extremism over political beliefs and that for the past 20 years we have had a certain leftish theme running through so much of society, you can see this in the heads and boards of so many institutions in the country, now when those views are counted by another extreme people are only protesting about that.

The has been a liberal elite running so many charities and quangos and public institutions for so many years in this country and other western ones, that it was only a matter of time before the right rose up like it did in the 1930's in Europe.

Are the Nazis bad and deserve to have the stupid ideology exposed for what it is? absolutely. But it would hold much more credence with me if those same people those Guardian people had come down on the liberal elite when they were screwing people over. The storm that is coming in America and the UK is the fault of the left for when they held all the cards, they seeked to humiliate and keep people down.

Hence the famous comment that one of the reasons for mass immigration was to "rub the rights nose in it" they were not seeking to govern responsibly but to attack people of a different political view to their own, now the same is happening to them they are bitching about it, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

Despite him performing another back track on membership of the single market, I will vote Corbyn, but if he does renegade on his previous promise to leave the EU. Then it might take another 10 years or so but it will not be long before we elect our own Trump, probably Farage. To long a huge number of people have been ignored by the elite and they will fight back at some point, it is happening in America and will happen here at some point.

Would not put it past Le Penn winning in France at one point in the future either.

Worth noting I wrote the first post in this thread, I hate Trump is an idiot he has no policies and even before I was diagnosed I hated his view on the disabled. But I do not blame him or even his supporters, I blame the left elite in the media and the public bodies for how far they pushed them.

 

[wiziwig]

It is interesting isn't it, that armed people go marching through a city carrying fascist banners, chanting fascist slogans and one of whom went on the murder someone and the only people that you can find it in you to condemn are the people protesting against them.

I condemned the violence of both sides in the 'Sick Sick World' thread.

It's interesting that you post a couple of posts regarding the San Francisco rally - the first one being what you deem funny, that the people attending the rally would be ambushed with dog faeces. . The second one being a tweet, "Bigots cancel rally"

I responded to your lazy Antifa nonsense by putting up a video of the "bigoted people" that you hoped to be showered in dog brick and no doubt human waste too .. You didn't like what you found in the video, that the "bigots" were just concerned everyday people and not cross burning fudgewits.

So it's interesting isn't it, that you are not man enough to admit your mistake when you labeled them bigots.

 

[wiziwig]

No, I'm saying an unhinged right wing nut job, is an unhinged right wing nut job. These are just intellectual sub-normals. By the way, socialism has nothing to do with being a Nazi. Hitler had that put into the party name in order to attract the unwitting support of less politically engaged working class Germans.

Intellectual sub-normals

Hitler changed the name from the Workers Party to The National Socialist Party, because the former name sounded too communistic. Nazi was never a word they called themselves but is a slur originating from the Russian Bolsheviks.

Hitler were a nationalist - he believed that it's the duty of all people to put country before self.

He were a fascist, fascists are socialist - You're right in what you say in your reply to @scaramanga - ownership was left to the industrialists. However, Hitler like socialists, believed that the state should be in charge of the means of production. The owners with a shotgun to their heads, were more than happy to oblige and show their nationalism with low earnings and almost non existent dividends.

 

[wiziwig]

Dont know if he is an apologist of just pointing out that we have had an extremism over political beliefs and that for the past 20 years we have had a certain leftish theme running through so much of society, you can see this in the heads and boards of so many institutions in the country, now when those views are counted by another extreme people are only protesting about that.

The has been a liberal elite running so many charities and quangos and public institutions for so many years in this country and other western ones, that it was only a matter of time before the right rose up like it did in the 1930's in Europe.

Are the Nazis bad and deserve to have the stupid ideology exposed for what it is? absolutely. But it would hold much more credence with me if those same people those Guardian people had come down on the liberal elite when they were screwing people over. The storm that is coming in America and the UK is the fault of the left for when they held all the cards, they seeked to humiliate and keep people down.

Hence the famous comment that one of the reasons for mass immigration was to "rub the rights nose in it" they were not seeking to govern responsibly but to attack people of a different political view to their own, now the same is happening to them they are bitching about it, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

Despite him performing another back track on membership of the single market, I will vote Corbyn, but if he does renegade on his previous promise to leave the EU. Then it might take another 10 years or so but it will not be long before we elect our own Trump, probably Farage. To long a huge number of people have been ignored by the elite and they will fight back at some point, it is happening in America and will happen here at some point.

Would not put it past Le Penn winning in France at one point in the future either.

Worth noting I wrote the first post in this thread, I hate Trump is an idiot he has no policies and even before I was diagnosed I hated his view on the disabled. But I do not blame him or even his supporters, I blame the left elite in the media and the public bodies for how far they pushed them.

I like your post for the most part , plenty of truths there!

But please don't vote Corbyn. He's an open border mentalist and will bankrupt us all - think Venezuela!

 

[StephenH]

Dont know if he is an apologist of just pointing out that we have had an extremism over political beliefs and that for the past 20 years we have had a certain leftish theme running through so much of society, you can see this in the heads and boards of so many institutions in the country, now when those views are counted by another extreme people are only protesting about that.

The has been a liberal elite running so many charities and quangos and public institutions for so many years in this country and other western ones, that it was only a matter of time before the right rose up like it did in the 1930's in Europe.

Are the Nazis bad and deserve to have the stupid ideology exposed for what it is? absolutely. But it would hold much more credence with me if those same people those Guardian people had come down on the liberal elite when they were screwing people over. The storm that is coming in America and the UK is the fault of the left for when they held all the cards, they seeked to humiliate and keep people down.

Hence the famous comment that one of the reasons for mass immigration was to "rub the rights nose in it" they were not seeking to govern responsibly but to attack people of a different political view to their own, now the same is happening to them they are bitching about it, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

Despite him performing another back track on membership of the single market, I will vote Corbyn, but if he does renegade on his previous promise to leave the EU. Then it might take another 10 years or so but it will not be long before we elect our own Trump, probably Farage. To long a huge number of people have been ignored by the elite and they will fight back at some point, it is happening in America and will happen here at some point.

Would not put it past Le Penn winning in France at one point in the future either.

Worth noting I wrote the first post in this thread, I hate Trump is an idiot he has no policies and even before I was diagnosed I hated his view on the disabled. But I do not blame him or even his supporters, I blame the left elite in the media and the public bodies for how far they pushed them.

I don't give a flying fudgecake regarding left, right or centre as a political stance. I do not want out smart anybody in some pseudo debating flimflam.
I just don't excuse the likes the KKK or bunch of fascist whatever brand they go under.

The end for me.

 

[glasgowspur]

Hitler and the Nazis should be banned from political debate.
They weren't left, they weren't right, they were mad.
The problem is that left and right are seen as opposite ends of a line.
Actually it's a circle, and when you follow that line extreme left and extreme right might in an ideological car crash that does nothing but create an elite and an underclass.

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

I like your post for the most part , plenty of truths there!

But please don't vote Corbyn. He's an open border mentalist and will bankrupt us all - think Venezuela!

More then possible and I am unhappy on his back tracking on the EU. But I think I want to see a more socially equal Country and he offers that. I have said the rise of the far right has been caused by the liberal elite. Well it is also true that the far left like Corbyn have been caused by the tories and the failure to look after the working class.

 

[Gilzeantoscore]

Intellectual sub-normals

Hitler changed the name from the Workers Party to The National Socialist Party, because the former name sounded too communistic. Nazi was never a word they called themselves but is a slur originating from the Russian Bolsheviks.

Hitler were a nationalist - he believed that it's the duty of all people to put country before self.

He were a fascist, fascists are socialist - You're right in what you say in your reply to @scaramanga - ownership was left to the industrialists. However, Hitler like socialists, believed that the state should be in charge of the means of production. The owners with a shotgun to their heads, were more than happy to oblige and show their nationalism with low earnings and almost non existent dividends.

Being "in charge of the means of production" in socialist terms means owning it. The nazi were quite content to let the capitalists continue to make their huge profits because most of the senior nazi officials were on the make from it. There was nothing socialist about them then and there isn't anything remotely socialist about them now. You can have your own unhinged opinions mate, but you can't have your own facts...sorry.

 

[Gilzeantoscore]

I condemned the violence of both sides in the 'Sick Sick World' thread.

It's interesting that you post a couple of posts regarding the San Francisco rally - the first one being what you deem funny, that the people attending the rally would be ambushed with dog faeces. . The second one being a tweet, "Bigots cancel rally"

I responded to your lazy Antifa nonsense by putting up a video of the "bigoted people" that you hoped to be showered in dog brick and no doubt human waste too .. You didn't like what you found in the video, that the "bigots" were just concerned everyday people and not cross burning fudgewits.

So it's interesting isn't it, that you are not man enough to admit your mistake when you labeled them bigots.

So having dog brick thrown at you, is the moral equivalent of being murdered in your view. Do people get it now?

 

[AuroRaman]

Megadeth warned us. And you clams didn't listen....

 

[Gilzeantoscore]

I saw some stats a couple of weeks ago that showed that 300 odd people had ben killed by far right extremists in America, but I can't remember the time scale, it could have been one year, but I cant be sure. Murders attributed to leftists...maybe three, but not substantiated. The unhinged try to draw moral equivalency, it's a tactic they have been using for ages. For me... a fascist is a fascist, it's the only discrimination I practise in life. There are no good ones...ever!

 

[scaramanga]

I saw some stats a couple of weeks ago that showed that 300 odd people had ben killed by far right extremists in America, but I can't remember the time scale, it could have been one year, but I cant be sure. Murders attributed to leftists...maybe three, but not substantiated. The unhinged try to draw moral equivalency, it's a tactic they have been using for ages. For me... a fascist is a fascist, it's the only discrimination I practise in life. There are no good ones...ever!

300 violent events a year, 65 deaths since since 9/11, although that lumps anti-government types, Nazis and a load of others all in together. The number is 5 since the beginning of 2016.

The extreme left, in case you're wondering, has killed 13 since the start of 2016.

 

[Jordinho]

https://twitter.com/x/status/903627774681894912

 

[Jordinho]

 

[Favour]

Your move Mr President.

North Korea nuclear test: Hydrogen bomb 'missile-ready'

25 minutes ago

North Korea says it has successfully tested a nuclear weapon that could be loaded onto a long-range missile.

The secretive communist state said its sixth nuclear test was a "perfect success", hours after seismologists had detected an earth tremor.

Pyongyang said it had tested a hydrogen bomb - a device many times more powerful than an atomic bomb.

Analysts say the claims should be treated with caution, but its nuclear capability is clearly advancing.

continues - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41139445

 

[milo]

https://twitter.com/x/status/903651252218855425