Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Like I said before, people need to stop fixating on the word "personality". Lewis Hamilton has no personality and he is always in the running. Ryan Giggs won it a few years back, and he's dull.
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2012 - Greatest Year of Sport Ever
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Like I said before, people need to stop fixating on the word "personality". Lewis Hamilton has no personality and he is always in the running. Ryan Giggs won it a few years back, and he's dull.
Park Lane James
Andy Sinton
Let's not forget that Wiggins didn't have a team behind him when he won the Olympic Time Trial!
Leeds Spur
Banned
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
I didn't say he did. I was just pointing out that his Tour De France was also a team effort. Mark Cavendish has even said he wants to leave team sky so he can stand a better chance of winning the event in future.
For the record, I think Wiggins will win it, but I'm not particularly a fan of his and think Ennis would be more deserving.
Dicko
Paul Stalteri
But surely there's a case that the heptathalon was almost a formality... especially now that dominant Swedish girl stopped doing it after she got bored from winning every competition each year cos she had no close rivals. Ennis was already a clear favourite this Olympics no matter what pressure there was on her.
Leeds Spur
Banned
Murray hands down.
Tennis is a truly GLOBAL sport, played all over the WHOLE world, not just Europe and the US plus Australia which dominate many sports that we love.
Winning the Olympic gold medal over 5 sets against the greatest player ever at Wimbledon, followed by the biggest slam in the world over 5 sets against the current 'man' on the tour is unrivalled IMO.
Stop! Hammer time though so I can see the arguments for and against many worthy candidates.
Tennis is a truly GLOBAL sport, played all over the WHOLE world, not just Europe and the US plus Australia which dominate many sports that we love.
Winning the Olympic gold medal over 5 sets against the greatest player ever at Wimbledon, followed by the biggest slam in the world over 5 sets against the current 'man' on the tour is unrivalled IMO.
Stop! Hammer time though so I can see the arguments for and against many worthy candidates.
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
you could apply that argument to Wiggins as well, he was head and shoulders above any other cyclist on the tour this year (as was his team) and it would have been a massive upset had he not won it, you could also say similar about Murray to some degree, its about time he actually won something as he's obviously had the talent for quite some time
you have to respect the amount of time they put in to get to that point though
Dicko
Paul Stalteri
But then Murray made the Wimbledon final - huge achievement and first Brit for a zillion years, then despite that disappointment of losing to Fed he returned and managed to win the Olympics by destroying Federer in a re-match (Note Federer was as determined as ever cos he's never won an Olympics), then when on to win a massive Grand Slam in New York, again the first for 80 odd years.. and he beat 2 of the best ever in Federer and Djokovic.
Add to that all the other matches and effort thoughout the year playing across the world.
I'm not saying Murray is my choice (I am a fan but I have no idea who to vote for really) but in a year where so many have achieved great things I just don't think Ennis would get my vote. Not that she cares of course lol!
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jts1882
Dean Richards
Ennis was not a clear favourite. Chernova, the reigning world champion, was probably the favourite, having beat Ennis last year, and Dobrynska, the reigning Olympic champion had to be considered a serious challenger.
Kluft stopped doing the heptathlon in 2007 - five years ago - so its hard to say if she would have still been at the top if she'd been interested. Few of the multi-event athletes can stay at the top over three olympic cycles.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
There's more that can go wrong for Ennis as there are 7 events. She isn't the best in the world at each event, so she had to nail the events that she excels in. Her time in the 100m hurdles even equalled the winning time of the hurdles event proper in 2008!
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Would love to see Murray win it. I definitely think a lot of people have warmed to him since Wimbledon and his triumphs at the US Open and the Olympics. But then there's still too many people who believe he dislikes England, even though he doesn't.
Leeds Spur
Banned
Because they are ignorant cretins
WookieD
Didier Zokora
Thing for me is that no British man had ever won the Tour and many people never thought one would. Sure there has been a team effort to get Wiggins over the line, but Dave Brailsford pushing Wiggins forward is no different to the support that Murray gets from the LTA, his mum, his team and his numerous coaches over the years. Wiggins may get actual support on the road, but that's the format of the sport, no different to any other team, he still has to perform on the day.
And don't forget that most of his Olympic medals came from the track. I think it is wonderful what Murray has done, but other Brits have done it, nobody has done what Wiggins has done and that's why he pips it for me. And whoever mentioned about doping, the idea of marking him down because of what others have done in the past is disingenuous in the least. Are we going to say that Carl Lewis doesn't deserve any accolades because Ben Johnson took drugs?
As far as other notables are concerned, I think the two female rowers, Stanning and Glover should be up there. They had only been training together for 2 and a bit years before winning an Olympic gold medal and Stanning had only been rowing for country for about 3 years... Bloody epic if you ask me.
Jessica Ennis was great but I don't think that it deserves the top gong, same goes for the Mobot... Maybe if he grabs another couple in Rio
But the list is going to be long and distinguished this year without a doubt.
Leeds Spur
Banned
Thing for me is that no British man had ever won the Tour and many people never thought one would. Sure there has been a team effort to get Wiggins over the line, but Dave Brailsford pushing Wiggins forward is no different to the support that Murray gets from the LTA, his mum, his team and his numerous coaches over the years. Wiggins may get actual support on the road, but that's the format of the sport, no different to any other team, he still has to perform on the day.
And don't forget that most of his Olympic medals came from the track. I think it is wonderful what Murray has done, but other Brits have done it, nobody has done what Wiggins has done and that's why he pips it for me. And whoever mentioned about doping, the idea of marking him down because of what others have done in the past is disingenuous in the least. Are we going to say that Carl Lewis doesn't deserve any accolades because Ben Johnson took drugs?
As far as other notables are concerned, I think the two female rowers, Stanning and Glover should be up there. They had only been training together for 2 and a bit years before winning an Olympic gold medal and Stanning had only been rowing for country for about 3 years... Bloody epic if you ask me.
Jessica Ennis was great but I don't think that it deserves the top gong, same goes for the Mobot... Maybe if he grabs another couple in Rio
Murray gets ZERO support from the LTA. Nada. And he was coached by his mum and went to Spain at a kid to train. He is 100% a self made man. An utter genius and success despite the LTA not because of them.
Leeds Spur
Banned
Thing for me is that no British man had ever won the Tour and many people never thought one would. Sure there has been a team effort to get Wiggins over the line, but Dave Brailsford pushing Wiggins forward is no different to the support that Murray gets from the LTA, his mum, his team and his numerous coaches over the years. Wiggins may get actual support on the road, but that's the format of the sport, no different to any other team, he still has to perform on the day.
And don't forget that most of his Olympic medals came from the track. I think it is wonderful what Murray has done, but other Brits have done it, nobody has done what Wiggins has done and that's why he pips it for me. And whoever mentioned about doping, the idea of marking him down because of what others have done in the past is disingenuous in the least. Are we going to say that Carl Lewis doesn't deserve any accolades because Ben Johnson took drugs?
As far as other notables are concerned, I think the two female rowers, Stanning and Glover should be up there. They had only been training together for 2 and a bit years before winning an Olympic gold medal and Stanning had only been rowing for country for about 3 years... Bloody epic if you ask me.
Jessica Ennis was great but I don't think that it deserves the top gong, same goes for the Mobot... Maybe if he grabs another couple in Rio
No Brits have won gold medals AND grand slams. And I prefer games of skill to feats of endurance. In essence you can train people to be greats cyclists. That's why our track team do great, money and science. Murray has GHod given talent and mixed it with amazingly hard work. Harder than almost any sportsman. Probably 5/6 hours a day of solid training and practice. Every day for 11 months a year. Incredible endurance.
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Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
At the end of the day daniel he is a jock and he hates the english so i doubt he will win.
I like him and was chuffed he won, as i said before he is a hero to my son a lad who does not like football. When your daughter is older you will understand how important it is for them to hve a sporting hero. So for that alone if cavendish does not win and it is unlikely he will because the country is made up of tacos who do not know we have the greatest sportsman of all time in our midst, well then i hope it is him.
Wiggins is not a great cyclist infact i would not even have him in the top 5 of current cyclists.
I like him and was chuffed he won, as i said before he is a hero to my son a lad who does not like football. When your daughter is older you will understand how important it is for them to hve a sporting hero. So for that alone if cavendish does not win and it is unlikely he will because the country is made up of tacos who do not know we have the greatest sportsman of all time in our midst, well then i hope it is him.
Wiggins is not a great cyclist infact i would not even have him in the top 5 of current cyclists.
Leeds Spur
Banned
Lol. Yeah, hates English people!!
Taking my girl for her first taste on Saturday.
Taking my girl for her first taste on Saturday.
WookieD
Didier Zokora
I thought he did now? My mistake. Cheers for the double quote though, makes me feel important
Anyway, that's complete gonads, if it was as simple as you say then Cavendish would be able to take any stage of the Tour, Giro or Vuelta with training, but he can't and won't ever be able to, and that bloke has GHod given talent.If you want to see hard training then take a look at Chris Hoy, doubled over feetle and throwing up as the acid burn fills his muscles after sprint training. Every top athlete is disciplined nowadays. Not tinkling on Murrays achievement but I think Wiggins is bigger.