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    Igor the Departed

    There are many different factors outside of the manager this and last season. Some that could be used to critique the managers, some that could be used to defend them. We should have course debate who had it worse, I'm not sure that's worth doing, both managers are in the past and neither did...
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    Igor the Departed

    Ange did enough to stay in the job until the end of the season (under management that at least had the reputation of being fairly trigger happy with regards to sacking managers). Frank didn't do enough to stay in the job until the end of the season. Under new management, management that let him...
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    25/26 Injury and illness thread

    Didn't we do such a review and report last season? Maybe it concluded that we would be unable to assemble a squad that can manage PL and European football at the same time any time soon so thus we hired Frank to help out on the injury front going into the 26/27 season?
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    Thomas Frank - Former Head Coach

    I'm not even having fun with that. The consensus just isn't that strong. I don't think it's that simple. But also it's the case that this lack of consensus will just continue. Come the summer we'll have our third manager since Ange got sacked (including Tudor) and we could discuss this until...
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    Thomas Frank - Former Head Coach

    On Frank perhaps level found, but more so type of club/situation imo. It seems you're in full agreement that there isn't a strong consensus on Ange 😉 The Forest job was possibly worse suited to Ange than the job here was to Frank.
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    Igor the Departed

    Gray will be needed for sure. Would personally be somewhat surprised if Souza is thrown into the NLD. Assuming it's a 3-4-3 not too dissimilar to what Conte did big asks of the midfield duo. Sarr and Gallagher should suit that, but not sure if the pair of them is the solution. Bissouma if...
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    Thomas Frank - Former Head Coach

    All for big swings! Even more so after the medium swing of Frank ended up hitting ourselves in the face at least as hard as the big swing did. Also very much agreed that we weren't always shocking after that first 10 games. Inconsistent for sure, but prefer that to consistently bad. There will...
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    The Case for the Attacking play

    Let's hope that with Tudor in it will at last be possible to make a case for our attacking play.
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    Igor the Departed

    Very much agreed. Had it been given to one of the "good old boys" (Dyche, Pulisic etc) the media would have their piece already written and probably been positive about it. Him not having PL experience it's obviously a potential downside, but in terms of dealing with a situation like this I...
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    Next Manager Thread (2026 Edition)

    Fully agreed. Obviously impossible to really know from the outside, but he looked spent. For a long time thought we needed to move on from at least the majority of the players here before he could come back. We've done that and mostly moved on from most of the board, the chairman, directors...
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    Igor the Departed

    Hopefully the timing can work to his and our benefit too. Almost two weeks off to the NLD, giving fatigued players some much needed rest. Then a week between games before there's a Sunday-Thursday turnaround. Time on the training ground, time for some of injured players to hopefully start...
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    Igor the Departed

    A lot of fond memories around having Croatian players here. Hopefully he can recreate some of that.
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    These jokers…

    Wouldn't really trust any of them (Levy, Paratici, Lange, VV) to make the right managerial hire. On Frank we don't really know who was calling the shots on that do we? With how long we waited to fire him I'm guessing hiring Frank at the very least wasn't done against the will of VV and Lange.
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    Next Manager Thread (2026 Edition)

    Alonso Nagelsmann If those aren't gettable Poch is very much one of the better candidates left imo. Not too concerned about what he did or didn't do at PSG. We need someone good for our circumstances, Poch has shown that. On the other hand there are concerns for me at least a out him...
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    Thomas Frank - Former Head Coach

    Bit early to say on Bournemouth? Iraola struggled at first, in part because of the big change from the previous style to his? What would they do next? Arguably a bit early to say on Brentford too. Frank was there a long time, they seem to have succeeded with the replacement, but that's one...
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    Igor the Departed

    That's part of why I brought that up, the word pragmatic is used in various ways and different people will have different associations to that word. Very much agreed that the route he chose to getting wherever it was he wanted wasn't the route to take.
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    Igor the Departed

    Yeah, agree. But at some times at least that would for me be the opposite of pragmatic in the way the word is typically used. Frank never got (or earned) the chance to show if he could do more here over time, but for what he showed he seemed very much like a one trick pony. Far from the...
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    Igor the Departed

    What does being pragmatic even mean in this context? Surely we want Tudor to do whatever it takes (within some level of reason) to make sure we don't get relegated. Whater he thinks that is will be pragmatic. Whatever he thinks that is may be different to what Frank thought that was. Not...
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    Yves Bissouma

    Yeah, they did run through brick walls for Ange. Says a lot about Frank that he couldn't get the same out of them.
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    Yves Bissouma

    There are managers who will impose their authority through fear. Doubt that was Frank - and I respect him for that. One other way of imposing authority is through mutual respect, belief, the players really believing in the manager and what he's doing. A manager not finding a way to have that...
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