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  1. SpurMeUp

    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Are you going to take up nursing yourself? Do you expect others around you to? Or waiting tables or working on construction sites or caring for old people in homes cleaning up after them?
  2. SpurMeUp

    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    What kind of lav do you use at home? I’m really titalated by the idea it’s foreign poos that are the issue with our sewer system 😂 The NHS would shrivel up and cease to function without the immigrants mate. Have you been in a hospital lately? The ratio of British born staff to forgin born must...
  3. SpurMeUp

    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    You’re quite the Anthropologist! What makes you think cultures are like Top of the Pops? That we could or should rank them? How the hell do you rank cultures!? Would be fascinating. You might produce a Doctorate on this for the local anthropology department 😂 Never mind the idiocy of trying to...
  4. SpurMeUp

    OMT ** Tottenham Hotspur v Man United 29/9/24 at 4.30pm **

    The first time this season the team clicked fully. Still not as clinical at converting chances as we'd love to be, but it was as close to a complete performance as we've seen. Totally dominated them. Who knows how much the red helped us, it seemed to help them if anything. A lot to be said for a...
  5. SpurMeUp

    OMT ** Tottenham Hotspur v Man United 29/9/24 at 4.30pm **

    Just what Dr Ange ordered. Sweeeeeeet!
  6. SpurMeUp

    OMT ** Tottenham Hotspur v Man United 29/9/24 at 4.30pm **

    If there ever was a goal that was more about the assist than the finish - that was it! VDV - shades of Bale.
  7. SpurMeUp

    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    They are viable and not profound. They won’t achieve a change to wealth distribution for example. Or the ethics of modern societies. To me these things are a basic baseline. The minimum. And they won’t make meaningful changes, certainly won’t make a dent in degrowth or scratch the surface of the...
  8. SpurMeUp

    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    China isn’t communist anymore even though it’s run by the communist party. As noted a couple of pages back, ironically it’s one of the worst countries for worker rights. If you think union protections are bad in the US, try working in a Chinese factory! But we are a little lost. Let’s recap...
  9. SpurMeUp

    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    That’s not particularly profound. Most European nations follow such a setup. There isn’t anything there to decouple capitalism and engage degrowth. Just some light fettling of what we already have.
  10. SpurMeUp

    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    What are we suggesting or considering as alternatives!? Easy to criticise. What is the alternative you’re suggesting? Re China. We were talking about degrowth. Which would require centralised government imposing a new economy on people. As communism did. The other salient point re China is...
  11. SpurMeUp

    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Personally I don’t buy this. Have workers ever been as protected within western societies as they are today? Are our approaches to inclusion bettered in past decades? Or was there a greater focus on carbon footprints previously within our capitalist system? Ironically, China, a nation run by...
  12. SpurMeUp

    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    There is a fundamental issue however. Which is we need existing human structures to achieve the aims. However, many commentators have a different perspective: that we must alter the existing structures to achieve the aims. And this is somewhat naive, and doesn’t respect or learn from historical...
  13. SpurMeUp

    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    What happened in Communist nations when the government controlled all goods in such a fashion? Did it go well? Was there a black market that filled in the gaps? And did the economies thrive or fail? It is good to have these kinds of ideas, and to explore which are viable. But as you know, the...
  14. SpurMeUp

    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    'De-growth' seems the most inappropriate of labels. When growth, development and change is central to its aims! Could be renamed Better Growth, or Targeted Growth. It is the most misleading of terms. To achieve development to be cleaner we do need to harness existing humans structures whether...
  15. SpurMeUp

    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Hehe...awaits Posters flagging up a set of clothes and some football tickets not being the same as millions or billions of pounds worth of contracts given to pals. And would you say a free outfit and some tickets to a sporting event equals "corruption" something you wouldn't accept yourself at...
  16. SpurMeUp

    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Would be extremely difficult to impose on a developed economy. May be it could be achieved over a number of years, taking a hour off each year. What would you do about people who wanted to work more? What would you do about staff shortages? Not enough nurses or Ambulance drivers, waiters...
  17. SpurMeUp

    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    The analogy would be more accurate if it were a Managing Director and you'd opposed their appointment prior. And now you're telling everyone you were right. A form of confirmation bias. Or did you vote for Labour? Most of our traditional press has a similar bias whether individual journalists...
  18. SpurMeUp

    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    How can anyone possibly make a judgement when they have been in power a few weeks? You know what is more interesting? How political affiliation is no different to football support. The whingeing from those who support a different political team right now is hilarious. You would think that...
  19. SpurMeUp

    Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

    Give exact examples of degrowth, not just sound bites. What are you suggesting exactly? As though anyone would disagree. What are you suggesting?
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